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Desperate for advice

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Dadtotwofs · 05/03/2022 19:15

So bit of back story. I have always been in d’s life, she is 9 and now lives with me and wife full time after concerns were raised about bm and their home/other family members.

I split from my ex when d was 4 months old, ex threatened to never let me see my d so I applied to court for contact straight away, secured every weekend plus split school holidays. For 5 years everything was the same until I was approached at work by a family support worker that was supporting mum and family, completely unknown to me, asking if I could take d for a couple of days as mum needed additional support. I of course agreed, as soon I said yes the support worker opened a flood gate and told me all the concerns they had about d and mums home. This prompted me to make an emergency application to court to prevent her being removed from my care by mum and to start the process for the full residency process. After a couple of months and a very lengthy section 7 report it was ordered that d should stay with me and mum would have alternating weekends and split school holidays. Everything seemed to settle into place until d was at an overnight contact and older maternal brother sexually assaulted d. This of course effected contact and how she could safely spend time with mum. I tried everything to keep contact with mum going, I supported contact in the community, paid for them to go to soft play centres, fast food restaurants, you name it, I did it to try keep a level of contact. It wasn’t mum that committed the assault and d certainly shouldn’t lose a relationship with a parent because of something like that. At first mum was 100% agreeable that contact couldn’t be how it was because the brother, still a child himself, lived at mums home. This soon changed and around 2 months after incident mum completely went back on all agreements that had been made with myself and professionals that had become involved and insured that contact be restored at the previous level. This obviously was not an option for me or the professionals so mum made an application to court to try enforce the court order. The application for an enforcement order lost any amount of pace it had as soon as the court learnt the reason for changing contact, the court has for two and half years been attempting to make an updated child arrangements order that gives contact but maintains safety, we’re several attempts down the line. During the whole process d’s behaviour has plummeted and at one point was attending a specialist centre instead of main stream school.

Around 6 months ago the court appointed a guardian and solicitor to act on behalf of d and they requested that d, mum and myself all have psychological assessments. Daughters to find what is effecting her and the best route forward to support her care needs, mum and i to confirm our parenting strengths and who is or isn’t able to support d. The report has been returned and states that mum should not have unsupervised contact with d and that contact should be supervised by professionals. Highlights concerns of lack of boundaries, mums need to be victim, mums lack of understanding, mum has downplayed the incident with older brother. A lot of concerns.

The guardian and solicitor appointed by court agree with the psychologist but mum is insisting that contact return to what it was previously or she will walk away.

Mum is adamant, even after being given time to reflect on the situation, that if she cannot have unsupervised contact she is going to walk away and have no contact at all.

The issue is, daughter wants contact desperately. We’re back in court very soon to review the report and either set contact or at least keep the ball rolling to find the best solution. The solicitor and guardian have said that if mum is of the same opinion on the day of court then we should make final statements and get an order to close the process.

I am 99.9% certain that mum on the day, will say unsupervised or nothing, maybe in an attempt to force the court to consider unsupervised contact but the court, guardian, solicitors and everyone at this point will not be duped or forced down that path. it really is the last chance to agree contact which will leave me having to break it to d that she will not be having contact with mum anymore.

How on earth do I do that? What could I possibly say to make d feel like it isn’t her fault?

After two and half years of hearings and assessments and d’s behaviour deteriorating I asked that an order be given to prevent anymore applications being made as no matter the outcome we need stability for d. This means if/when mum states she’s walking away and will not have contact it will be that way for years to come. I’m not against mum having contact but d needs stability and I can’t keep allowing instability to effect d the way it has.

I really don’t know what I’m going to tell d after the next hearing, any advice from anyone is appreciated

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Duracellbunnywannabe · 05/03/2022 19:26

I think I would be honest and say the judge thinks for you to be safe with Mum you can only see her with others there but unfortunately Mum has decided she would rather not see you. This is not because of anything you have done but because Mum isn’t mentally well. Perhaps when you are an adult things maybe different and she may want to choose to see you again.

Mummyinlove09 · 05/03/2022 19:59

First of all, I just want to say what an amazing Dad you are to your daughter. That shines through in every single thing you’ve done for her throughout this full situation. She is incredibly lucky to have you to support her through everything she has endured. That in itself tells me you will know exactly what to say to make it as painless as possible.

The truth is, whatever you say, she will be so hurt and it will take some time for her to come to terms with her Mum’s decision. The best thing to do is be honest but try and be as gentle as possible so as not to make it sound like you are blaming her Mum as she may then blame you as you are the messenger. Maybe explain that things have been difficult for everyone but that Mum needs to take some time to herself and that means that she isn’t able to see her until she is ready again but you don’t know if or when that will be.

I hope you find the right words if the time comes Flowers

Hm2020 · 06/03/2022 17:45

That was actually difficult to read your poor daughter and you sound extremely level headed and like you have put your daughter first throughout. I’m sorry I don’t really know how you should deal with this I wonder if there is an organisation that the courts or even your daughters school know about that could help with this as I imagine it’s going to be very difficult. I truly wish you and your daughter all the best Flowers

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Dadtotwofs · 06/03/2022 21:05

Update since posting.

I’ve spoken with d today to start preparing her for the worst. She already knew when we back in court and what we were waiting for to be able to make arrangement, I explained that we had received the reports and what they said. She was really receptive to the recommendations and understood why the reports say what they do. I also spoke about mum being upset with the reports, while letting her know I didn’t know what will be agreed I said I think we may end up with something nobody will be happy with. This made it a little confusing for her but I didn’t want to tell her out right what mum was saying as I didn’t want to upset her if mum does end up changing her mind.

We’re in court tomorrow so will give an update tomorrow evening if I have the emotional capacity

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Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 06/03/2022 21:10

Trying to emotionally blackmail you is a sign she def isn't having your d unsupervised surely? The fact there are lots of outside bodies involved means your dd has the chance of the best possible outcome imo. If that is without her dm then sadly that's the way it is. It isn't your doing op. In time your d will acknowledge it was for the best.

Mrsmch123 · 06/03/2022 22:13

I have no advise but what an amazing dad you are!!!she may not know it now but she will thank you one day for always being her constant and advocating for what is best for her!

Dadtotwofs · 07/03/2022 17:42

So we had our hearing mum had changed her mind.

She decided she does want contact, still doesn’t want supervised which is understandable but she’s not walking away. Mum has apparently been taking legal from someone she know who is a “legalised barrister” and they’ve said that the psychological report has no evidence to support it so she wants to fight it.

We’ve been rescheduled for a couple of months time and very blunt advice given about the likelihood of court discarding several expert opinions.

Spoke to d almost as soon we got home from school as she falling over herself for an update. She completely understands the report and took it as a at least I’d get to see my mum, called mum silly for wanting to fight it but ultimately took it like a champ and currently seems 100% happy with how things are today.

I think I might have underestimated d’s understanding, maturity and ability to cope. Conversation went a lot easier than I was anticipating

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CatherinedeBourgh · 07/03/2022 17:50

Sounds like you are doing everything right. Your poor dd.

I would keep the message that her mum loves her but is struggling, and hopefully will get better with time and your dd will be able to spend more time with her then. That way she is clear that it isn't her fault in any way.

Mummyinlove09 · 07/03/2022 21:25

That’s great that her Mum changed her mind. Hopefully she does the same with trying to drag this through any more court days but I’m pleased for you. Keep being the great Dad that you are to your little girl!

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