A New technique Is getting babies as yound as six months out of nappies

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Please read the article on timesonline.co.uk/alphamummy and let me know your thoughts.

Which way works and is best for everyone involved!

QUOTE If you are in the car on the motorway and your child somehow indicates that they need a wee or poo have you got time to get to the services or not? Or are you moping up ?

Every ECing parent will have a different answer. You can either dress the baby in a backup cloth nappy just in case. Other parents use a waterproof liner to protet the car seat in case of a wee accidents.

I always break long journeys up for myself with regular wee breaks for me and I take DD whilst I go. This seems to work for us.

I believe they will do it by themselves. I recall a study/case of a little boy who lived on a farm and was outdoors a lot, he began to poo in one particular place (a manure heap I think!) it is a natural instinct...my first son used to take his potty somewhere private.

I do think it will happen whether we guide them or not. Just takes longer iyswim!

I used cloth nappies with my two dses and they were trained round about 2 years of age. My dd's used disp nappies and were nightmares to train, nearer 3yo, despite the old saw about girls being so much easier to train. Ime, I think it's easier to do it sooner rather than later because an older child has much more awareness of the powerful weapon they can wield by not cooperating.

There's also a school of thought that believes late potty training is a subconscious way of infantilising toddlers for longer and keeping them in a baby-like state which at the same time also denies children their burgeoning independence. I'm glad I didn't know all this when dealing with my four dc!!

i am just amazed that despite the fact babies have been around since the year dot, there is no clear guidance on the best age, method and approach.

Until i read the articles, I had been clearly told not to start before age two, poss 2.5 with a DS.

Why don't the professionals involved in handing out guidance, give clearer messages?

After two days, DS is putting toys on the potty and saying 'wee'. Its only a start, but i guess you need to start somewhere!

QUOTE Why don't the professionals involved in handing out guidance, give clearer messages?

Because HCP often have nice packs off Pampers et al which explain how children are not capable of toilet training until 2/3/4 years old. After all there is a hell of a lot of money to be made keeping children in disposable nappies, toilet trained children cut into the potential profits.

Does anyone who has tried EC have their child with a childminder or nursery? And before people get defensive I am a sahm myself with 2 boys.

I am really curious about the whole thing. I don't believe that there is a right or wrong way to do this but I do like reading the very diverse ways of parenting. (i use cloth nappies and use a sling and have done AP when it felt right for me and my sons)

I did ask before (and it has been amswered) about travelling as if it is something I try I need to know the practicalities.

Fizzylemonade, ECing works very well with AP parentings especially, co-sleeping and baby wearing. LOL don't wee in a sling (if given reasonable potty options, nature tells them not to soil the nest (bed at night) or mummy (if in a sling)

I am a SAHM so can't answer your question about nursery from personal experience. But I have heard about children who are happy to be part-timed EC'd. i.e. nappied in nursery, ec'd at home.

I supposed it depends on the nursery. I can't see them allowing a nappyless child roaming around but a nursery might allow cloth nappies and offer a potty to the child at nappy changes ?

I have 5 kids and 1 was potty trained at about 20 months, just 'got it' and no real fuss and another wasn't reliably dry until about 3.5, the other 3 were all somewhere in between, surely this will be more sucessful with some babies than others? Like some babies just won't get it and others will?

BellaDonna79, Parenting 5 kids...wow

Honestly, I don't know. I only have one child and therefore have nothing to compare anything too.

On the ECing boards every child has 'got it' but I agree in their own time. ECing families with several children, tend to have the younger children clean and dry earlier. But I suspect this is mainly to do with relaxing and tuning in more as the parent is more practised, rather than 2nd or 3rd child being more with it.

I was told on the ECing boards that all children can be ECed. However I have spoken to parents on Mumsnet who are very sure this could never work for their children.

I suppose it is like every parenting choice, those who use it love it and those you don't use it don't understand why anyone would want to do it.

and those you who don't use it

This sounds ace. What happens during the night though, if your baby is in his/her own room? (Will read up on other websites but just curious for now....)

Night Time Stuff

Many ECing parents co-sleep and often wake potty, nurse and back to sleep.

My 15 month old DD is in her own room. If she wakes I do the same toilet, nurse back to cot.

I choose to have a backup cloth nappy on her at night but have been debating about sticking her in a real bed and let her sleep nappy free (waterproof the bed)

Some parents use nappy backup, some waterproof the bed with pads and special sheets, some do neither just trust the child (brave folks)

HTH

I find it significant that the average age of potty training has gone up from well under 2 1/2 in 2000 to just under 3 since the introduction of pull up NAPPIES.

Ooh yay - I have a thread calling for ECers (I thought it was you BabiesEverywhere). I will read through this this evening.

Flame, I posted on your other thread
HTH

my friend's dd is 13 months and potty trained day and night. ds is 18 months and i sit him on the potty at times that he is likely to wee but i'm not properly training him yet.