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Is my 10yr old DS's behaviour normal?

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BrokenArrows · 28/11/2021 23:08

For those of you with 10yr boys (or who have recently had one that age) - would you consider this fairly normal behaviour? Apologies in advance, this is long. I've only just realised after reading it through Confused

Meal times: I feed my two DC (DD is 3) earlier than my husband and I eat (we eat once they're in bed - long story). My son cannot sit at the freaking table. He gets up, fiddles around with the TV, the Alexa, my daughter’s toys that are in the room, watches something on the ipad at the table, he'll get up and start flopping around on the floor, pesters my daughter, makes stupid sounds, etc. He can get so side tracked with all these things that the process of eating a plate of food can take 30-40 mins. He can eat it quicky if he wants to, but most of the time he doesn't. Meal times are sooo stressful for me. I just want to cry. I feel so defeated and awful for the constant nagging, and eventually yelling out of sheer frustration because he just won't freaking sit down and eat.

During a film: He'll sit on the sofa with my husband, but will have the remotes in front of him on the coffee table. He cannot leave them alone. He's constantly touching a button on them to see how long is left of the movie, or trying to rewind a funny part. Sometimes he's bouncing around on the sofa as well. He'll often end up messing up the moving and accidentally starting it from the beginning again.

In the car: If he's on his own he's usually fine. He'll read a book. But throw my daughter into the mix and he's pestering her, taunting her, she's whining and he's winding her up, he'll kind of bounce up and down in his seat so it shakes the whole car, says things that will upset her. Driving with them is a nightmare.

At home: He's obsessed with technology and gadgets. We've got an alexa, an apple home pod, etc. He'll constantly be fiddling with them, turning them on to play music, setting alarms because he thinks he's being helpful. Trying to turn on the TV. My daughter will ask for peppa pig. We'll put it on. He'll switch it to something else 2 mins later, leaving her whining and crying that he's changed her show. Then he'll say he's going to put it on again and he'll put it on Youtube. Then change the episode half way through again leaving her whining and crying.

Homework: It could take him 2hrs+ to complete a few pages with 5-10 questions on it. Again he'll get distracted, turn the tv on, flip on the sofa, flop around on the ground, basically do anything but his homework.

Bedtime: We somehow got into the habit of my son reading my daughter her bedtime story. She's normally so exhausted once she's out of the bath, so I'll call my son up to read and I will have to call him 5-10 times before he comes. He'll make excuses like 'you never told me' or say 'I'm coming' but it'll take 10-20 mins of nagging. By this time my daughter is so tired. My son gets in her room and then starts jumping on her bed and winding her up again. He'll start to read her book, but might read it in a super fast voice slurring his words. I'll then have to nag to get him to slow down and I'm getting stressed out, daughter is tired and cranky and then getting herself distracted and off my lap, he'll get annoyed and say 'ok, I'm leaving no book' which will make her upset and cry. I'll have to yell after him to come and read the book. This craziness can go on and on for 20 mins or more. I swear I'm getting heart palpitations just writing this all out. I've tried to read the books to her myself and she gets so upset and insists on him reading or she just kicks up the biggest tantrum.

I cannot handle being in my house anymore. My kids are both driving me insane.

I have really just felt extremely defeated the past few months, but this weekend has left me feeling very low. My son is constantly acting up. Doesn't listen no matter what I say. He was always such a pleasant little boy, but as he's got older (it started about 7-8yrs) he's become a real handful, and is now quite rude, gets very down on himself saying he's bad, he's stupid, no one likes him, he doesn't know how to behave, etc. The hours between 5-10pm are absolute chaos in my house most of the time, starting out with dinners, then bath and bed times. It drags on and on.

I have suspected for a long time that my son has ADHD. My husband insists he doesn’t and will not let me get him assessed. He gaslights me into thinking that this is completely normal behaviour for a boy (but the husband gets equally frustrated and yells at my son too). It’s just not a good environment for anyone. But my husband grew up an only child and his mother never punished him and basically still thinks the sun shines out his ass. My son now speaks to me quite rudely, and can be a little aggressive at times. It scares me. My husband does nothing to enforce any kind of punishment and makes loads of empty threats, but never follows through with them. I can’t even remember what it was, but my son did something (I think spoke to my husband very rudely) and I told him to go for a time out in the bathroom for 5 mins. He refused, I tried to get him in there, and then said to my husband – so you’re not even going to do anything about him saying that – and he replied with “I don’t believe in timeouts”
I’m ay my wits end. I’ve felt so defeated this weekend I’ve not even had dinner yesterday or today. I’ve just been so stressed and so down I can’t be bothered. Please tell me this isn’t normal behaviour? I don’t know what I can do to get help, but I’m so down I just want to run away from the noise and chaos of my house. Sad

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Bumpsadaisie · 29/11/2021 10:34

Stop him reading to your DD. She needs a calm bedtime - one to one - with a parent. Not with a sibling. Your DS does not need to do this job and I'm sure is not old enough to do it.

Maybe he does have adhd and you should get it checked out.

But maybe he just needs solid boundaries and to feel like his parents are in charge. Your DH needs to step up in the "kind but firm" parenting stakes.

My lad is ten and if we had not continually insisted he sit still, eat reasonably politely, no tech at the table then I'm sure he would run amok too. We still have constantly remind him to hold his cutlery correctly, eat at a reasonable speed, not interrupt conversation, but he is getting better and mealtimes can often be nice now. Though it has been a slog!

I think your DH role is very important with a boy of this age. Both to pay him attention but also pull him up firmly on behaviour.

littlemisslozza · 29/11/2021 11:48

Can I also echo others, since your update, that your DH is the biggest problem here! Cooking six times a day just for himself?! He sounds incredibly selfish and not a good role model for your DS, who will soon be a teenager behaving like his dad if this carries on.

Are there any good male role models in your family? Anyone in the family who can come and give you a hand at dinnertime and to get into a new bedtime routine for a couple of weeks? If not, drop the bath every night and go to every other perhaps - DS one night and DD the next? DS also ought to get homework done before bedtime too, not at bedtime when he's supposed to winding down.

Boundaries definitely needed otherwise your DH is creating a monster, despite your best efforts.

madmomma · 29/11/2021 11:54

Sounds like adhd

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Shuffleuplove · 29/11/2021 12:02
  1. your husband is an utter utter arse.

  2. your husband has something going on - ASD of some description would be on my shortlist to think about. He seems to have no insight or interest in the consequences of his behaviour on the family.

  3. your son might have something going on too - I’d guess from what you’ve said that ADHD would be a good place to start, given his impulsive movements

  4. you won’t sort your son out whilst you’re still with your husband.

GrandmasCat · 29/11/2021 12:09

If this behaviour is not happening at school it may have more to do with the rules you have at home and how you enforce them (and how consistently you enforce them as if you are not consistent… the rule is useless).

I would start by feeding DD first, and once she is done (and out of the way) sit with your son while he has dinner, remove all distractions and stick to it until he learns what is he expected to do and that you absolutely mean what you say.

It will be a battle for a few days but if you persevere you may get them to sit together for dinner soon and even enjoy the experience.

whitehorsesdonotlie · 29/11/2021 12:17

It sounds like he has far too much access to tech and that's overwhelming him and his concentration span is shot.

I'd take away all the tech and focus on him concentrating on one thing for 5 mins - homework, reading, drawing - then build this up.

He needs to be able to focus on one thing at a time. This will help with his listening skills too.

Hopefullywaiting01234 · 29/11/2021 12:22

Has he always been like this or is it new behaviour. I don’t have a 10 year old to base it on but I do have a 5 year old and yes sometimes he jumps around the living room etc (drives me crazy) but he can sit no bother and eat his dinner, do his homework etc

whitehorsesdonotlie · 29/11/2021 12:22

And your h is your main problem. He's a complete arse and it sounds like he will never work with you to improve anyting. He sounds like he has his own issues.

I'd leave your h, then work at implementing boundaries and rules for your dc. Your routine sounds absolutely exhausting, and it's no fun for your dc either. Kids need structure, consistency and rules: they make kids feel safe.

Inquisitivearchitect · 29/11/2021 12:25

The issue here is your husband.

Tell him people with adhd and in my case Aspergers too - can become engineers, architects and anything they damn well want.

School, college and university will provide support (as long as it’s diagnosed!)

Mojoj · 29/11/2021 12:26

Two things - get your son assessed. It sounds very much like ADHD. Schools don't always pick this up. As for your husband....where to start? He's leaving you to deal with the fallout of no rules and consequences for poor behaviour. I would be considering my future with him.

Inquisitivearchitect · 29/11/2021 12:26

On a small side note. If you want to quietly help your son then try Halborange cod liver oil and see if that helps him focus.

Works for me!

But I want to reiterate that the issue you have is your asshole husband!

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