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Undermining Grandmother

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AlwaysMumming · 22/11/2021 16:53

Hi everyone! I’m a new poster, so I hope this is okay to put here as I wasn’t sure. I would love some advice if you could.

Very long story short, my mother-in-law won’t come to our house to see her grandsons as her partner is not welcome. We have done everything we can think of to encourage her, invited her to every occasion, taken her out to lunch and pleaded with her to reconsider. However, she says that if her partner is not welcome then she won’t be visiting here. My OH doesn’t say much but he is heartbroken that she would choose a man over her own son and grandsons. Despite this, we have never refused contact with her at all.

We have a 2 year old together, who she never asks about or wants anything to do with. We also have my OH’s son from a previous relationship, who is 11 and lives with us full time. Before we moved into our own home, my OH and his son lived with his mum for a few years, therefore SS is very close with his nan.

SS stays with his mum at the weekends and occasional holidays, when she doesn’t change her mind. She is not a very nice person, and if SS ever shows reluctance to see her, we would not skip a beat.

Now here’s the problem. We have just found out that mother-in-law has been visiting SS at his mums house. OH is going to speak to his mum about how we don’t want her going there and she is more than welcome here, but we know she will ignore our wishes. We also know that if we talk to SS’s mum, she will not be very cooperative either.

We don’t know what to do about this, and we are both very concerned, especially if everyone starts . Obviously the boys are our top priority, but we feel between a rock and a hard place. Does anyone have any suggestions or experience with similar situations? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It is a long story, there are reasons for everything, and if anyone needs more specific information please ask.
Thank you! ❤️

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Leghardwareremoval · 22/11/2021 16:55

You can’t control what happens in your partner’s ex’s house.

Why don’t you want your partner’s mum’s partner in your house?

She’s entitled to say no she won’t come if he’s not welcome.

NeverTheHootenanny · 22/11/2021 17:03

I don’t think you’re entitled to tell her not to visit stepson at his mums. That’s between them.

Presumably she thinks you’re being unreasonable for not allowing her partner to visit and is showing her support for him. Without knowing why you’re NC with him it’s hard to know who is BU.

Sundaydance · 22/11/2021 17:23

It all depends why you will not let her partner in your house.

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Dillydollydingdong · 22/11/2021 17:28

So you'd like her to see SS at your house, but not at ss's mum's house? And you don't want MIL going there? wtaf? And what is the problem with MIL's partner? Its no good giving us just half the story!

DowntonCrabby · 22/11/2021 17:32

SS Mother can have whomever she likes in her own house, just as you can choose not to have MIL’s partner in yours. If there are safeguarding concerns with the partner then obviously you’d be in contact with social work to inform them he’s seeing SS elsewhere. Otherwise NOYB.

AlwaysMumming · 22/11/2021 20:57

Okay so SS’s mum and dad are amicable, but this is a woman who has told her son that she never wanted him and would rather go out drinking than have her child a lot of the time. There are no courts involved, no social services involved, (despite him not having his own room, let alone a bed at hers), OH agrees for SS to see his mum because he obviously wants to, and there aren’t any immediate safeguarding concerns there. All I meant is that, if he didn’t want to go to his mums, we would not force him, but he does, so we try and accommodate her inconsistency as best we can as to avoid any unnecessary drama for SS’s sake.

OH’s mum (mother-in-law), she has been through a lot in her life and I really empathise with her. However, she is way too open with what she says in front of the kids, she was feeding SS as much food as he wanted, including sneaking snacks and sweets into him at night (and he became severely overweight), she would criticise OH in front of SS and especially if he told SS off. There are just so many things about her behaviour and attitude around SS that we as parents don’t agree with and would rather supervise her contact. She has always undermined us, gone against our wishes and had no respect for her own son. Yet, we have encouraged contact with her grandsons for their sake.

MIL’s partner does nothing around the house, expected OH to do everything, including cook for him every night, which he would tell him how shit it was every time, kick off and refuse to eat (a very regular occurrence!), yet would never cook himself. He would criticise OH for anything he did, OH would just take it because he is non-confrontational and didn’t want to make it a bigger problem. He would swear constantly, in front of the kids, often the ‘c’ word too. He is racist, homophobic, sexist and drinks to the point of being borderline alcoholic. He is manipulative and verbally abusive to MIL, and this stretches to everyone else when he’s had a drink. MIL says she knows what he’s like but can’t bear the thought of being on her own.

I stayed there with OH during lockdown (just before we moved into our house), as we had just had our new baby and wanted to be together. I witnessed many degrading take-downs of OH, often in-front of SS, and it was heartbreaking. MIL even told SS once that his dad is a liar, and now SS will call his dad that occasionally. We had many conversations with MIL asking her to respect our decisions over parenting, and she continually disregarded it and did the opposite. The final straw was MIL’s partner, having had too much to drink one evening, whilst OH was putting SS to bed, suddenly squaring up to OH in SS’s room, screaming in his face and raising his fist (in front of SS!), all because OH giggled at something MIL had said and he thought it was about him. SS was so upset, and this is the first time OH quite rightly retaliated (just by shouting back). He has never done anything to deserve the way he was treated. Anyway, this happened twice within a week. It got to the point where the school actually contacted OH about this as SS had mentioned it, and said about how concerning it was. Obviously we were aware and dealing with it, and thankfully very close to moving, and they were happy with that. So yes, we made it clear when we moved that our kids will not be having contact with MIL’s partner, but that she was always welcome to visit and to meet up with us and the boys, but she chose not to. She said if her partner is not accepted as part of the family then she wouldn’t visit us. Just to add, OH is the last one of 5 children who speaks to his mum. There are so many other stories, I just can’t fit everything in, I was trying to keep it short for everyone to read, I’m sorry that offended some people.

I accept that is her choice, obviously, but to go behind our backs, instead of visiting her own son, and both grandchildren, to go to SS’s mums (a woman she hated) to just see him, is very sneaky.

I have done nothing wrong, to anyone involved, I have been nothing but compassionate and caring with everyone, and I genuinely didn’t know what to do about a situation my OH and I have been struggling with. All I asked for was for some advice and maybe some kind of understanding from other mums, who I thought would understand wanting to protect their kids, but instead I’m just attacked for wanting to protect them. Is that what this forum is about? Where is the support? The kindness?
I’m sorry but the kids come first in everything we do, and anything to do with the kids is our business, that’s what being a parent is.

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