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How to deal with the 4 year old attitude

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bluesky45 · 18/11/2021 11:31

Help please lovely MNers! We are struggling so much with our 4 year olds attitude at the moment. Me and DH feel like all we do it nag at him. He used to be such a well behaved little boy and he still is a lot of the time but we are finding so often we have to tell him and tell him to do things (take his pjs off to get ready for nursery, sit at the table for dinner, get shoes on to leave the house) and then eventually we raise our voices and he does it straight away. Then he tells us he doesn't like it when we shout (of course he doesn't, we don't either!) And he has the attitude of a teenager and talks to us awfully sometimes.
This morning seems to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I asked him to go to the toilet before getting dressed for nursery. I asked him 3 times. On the third time he makes a grumpy teenager moan type noise but goes to the toilet. Then I'm helping him get dressed and very calmly he tells me "I don't like you mummy. You should go away. Then we would just have daddy. I don't love you."
We had a chat about all the things I do for or with him and he says "daddy could do those". Daddy unfortunately could not do those things because he works 7-5 every day and I'm a sahm. He has said he doesn't like daddy too previously.
Later, we were in the car driving to nursery and he tells me "on my 3rd birthday, you forgot to to put (certain character that he didn't know at the time) on my birthday cake!" In a very afronted tone, like how dare I have forgotten. How/why is he bringing up a birthday cake from 14 months ago as a stick to beat me with?! He loved the cake at the time as it had the characters he wanted then on it. Where did this come from?!
I feel like I would find it easier to handle if he was having a full tantrum and saying "I hate you!" Since during tantrums, he's not in control but he says these things when he's perfectly calm.
How do we handle this attitude? He seems very ungrateful for all the wonderful things he has and experiences we give him, which we are so fortunate to be able to do and we do go without in our own lives to facilitate these things for our children. And it all seems so expected by them and he seems to be becoming entitled.
Where have we gone wrong and how do we turn it around? I'm afraid I didn't handle it well at all this morning and berated him for not appreciating what I do for him but of course he doesn't, he's a 4 year old and I chose to have children and of course I'm supposed to clean his clothes and the house and cook for them etc.
Thank you if you got this far and please be gentle, I'm feeling awful enough about this whole situation!

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WheelieBinPrincess · 18/11/2021 11:37

I think you’re giving him too much floor time for his unfair but completely normal four year old grievances to be honest.

I wouldn’t give it any more thought than a jolly no nonsense response.

‘I hate you!’ ‘That’s a shame darling because I really love you!’

‘You didn’t do x y z for my birthday!’ ‘How funny you remember that when I gave you such a nice party! You silly sausage’

bluesky45 · 18/11/2021 11:43

@WheelieBinPrincess

I think you’re giving him too much floor time for his unfair but completely normal four year old grievances to be honest.

I wouldn’t give it any more thought than a jolly no nonsense response.

‘I hate you!’ ‘That’s a shame darling because I really love you!’

‘You didn’t do x y z for my birthday!’ ‘How funny you remember that when I gave you such a nice party! You silly sausage’

That's reassuring as that's how we usually deal with it. It just doesn't seem to be making a difference with his overall attitude. This morning he was just going on and on about how awful I was and I didn't handle it in that way at all feel awful that's he's now at nursery and we had such an awful morning. Thank you for your reply
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Seeline · 18/11/2021 11:45

Try praising the good bits as much as you can, and ignoring the undesirable stuff if possible.

Would some sort of reward system work - sticker chart etc where he get s a sticker for doing something straight away?

Or illustrating the consequences of not doing something - if he doesn't get out of his pjs in time for leaving for nursery, he goes to nursery in his pjs.

I think young children do easily get distracted when asked to do things, and can loose track if asked to do too much in one go.

When telling him to get dressed, do oyu actually go to him, look him in the eye and use his name? Make instructions precise - rather than saying time to get ready for nursery, break it down into steps - take off pjs, put your pants on, put your trousers on, time to wash and clean teeth etc. They will be completely lost with just being told to get ready.

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Pinkstegosaurus · 18/11/2021 11:50

Oh OP it’s awful isn’t it, my DD (almost 4) told me that I make her life miserable the other day and that I was a bad mummy. My crime? Putting milk on her cereal…
I’ve been reassured that it is just a phase and passes but it’s bloody horrid when you’re actually dealing with it. All I keep saying is ‘that’s a hurtful thing to say, I love you very much though’ and glossing over stuff where possible. Good luck!

Rainallnight · 18/11/2021 11:52

Has he started Reception? Could be exhaustion/overwhelm from that.

I don’t think you should get hung up on the ‘entitled’ thing. That’s his life, it’s all he understands and knows. Of course he’s not going to be appreciative, he’s too small!

WheelieBinPrincess · 18/11/2021 12:14

A gem jar might be an idea- I buy plastic gems from Amazon, different colours mean different things- politeness, kindness, doing as you’re asked etc. When the jar is full it adds up to a treat. Kids love it (I’m a nanny)

Now where this doesn’t work so well, is where the kids have a load of treats for not very much reason on a regular basis already. It then becomes a bit obsolete to work hard for a Lego comic or a gingerbread man from Pret when they’re regularly given all that and big ticket items just for displaying behaviour I’d already expect from them and their age-groups- not snatching, saying thank you etc. So it really has to become something they go over and above for and make a proper effort.

Chocolatetrifle · 20/11/2021 20:52

I have a just turned 4 year old boy too. He told me today he didn't like me. I just say 'oh no really? I love you'. They don't really mean it. He will probably laugh then after he has said it. Don't take it to heart too much. They are trying out all of their emotions I think. Plus a lot of strong language like 'hate' can come out at this age but again they don't mean it.
They still have tantrums too even though we think they are getting old for them, boy they can still have epic tantrums!

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