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Fear of toilets

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Twizbe · 17/11/2021 16:30

We need some help and I'm hoping someone on here might have some resources or guidance. I'll try to include as much detail as I can so it might be long.

My son is 4, 5 in January and started full time school in Sept.

We potty trained just before he turned 3 in Jan 2020. He got it quickly and was happy to do wees and poos in the potty. He had 1 accident at preschool on a proper toilet as he didn't point his penis down but we talked about that. He had access to a potty there so used that instead. He was starting to use his potty in public toilets and then lockdown happened.

When public toilets reopened he had developed a fear of them. He was already a bit scared of hand dryers but after lockdown it became an absolute terror of them.

Prior to lock down and during it we had him assessed for selective mutism and he was diagnosed when he was 3. During his assessment process he was also screened for ASD but we don't believe he has that. He is a very nervous child when faced with new situations

After lockdown preschool did some amazing work with him on speaking and he now talks freely at school. We've sent him to a really small single form entry school on purpose to help with his speaking and anxiety.

He never used the toilet at preschool after lockdown and would hold it in. It was only 3 hours so he was able to do this.

Out of the house he'd only use his potty and NEVER in an actual toilet. If we tried to take him into one it would lead to a really intense fear reaction. I've had to leave him with strangers outside of toilets before because I've HAD to use the toilet and he's been too scared to even just come in with me.

He's now started school and he's tried to hold it in all day but the past week he's had 4 accidents and just sits in them as he's too scared to say anything. Today I told the TA he'd had an accident (against his wishes)

We can't go on like this. His little sister potty trained easily too and I've been very consistent with taking her to public toilets whenever we're out. She uses the normal toilet no issues.

We're out of ideas and it needs to be sorted so please please please does anyone have any resources or help? We are open to professional help if he needs some sort of therapy to deal with the anxiety ... anything.

We've tried;
Talking about what scares him
Slowly introducing him to toilets taking more steps into various public toilets - takes a long time and will only get him used to one toilet at a time
Huge praise and bribes to use toilets - this did work to get him to use a toilet on a day out recently
Modelling behaviour with his sister - showing how we hold her onto toilets and that we can do the same for him
Modelling behaviour with ourselves - standing up wees and touching toilets
Switching off hand dryers were we can (we obvs turn them back on when we leave)
Refusing to take the potty out with us anymore
To my shame I have got frustrated with him once when he missed his potty and pee'd on his pants. I know that one wasn't the right approach
I'm going to ask if I can go into school this week and try and get him to go in the toilet at school. Not sure if this will be allowed due to covid.

Please help - we're desperate

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Paddingtonsmarmlade · 17/11/2021 21:14

At home does he use his potty or the toilet?

If it's the potty then I think I'd try to get him used to the toilet at home with a good sturdy child seat with handles.

The next step I'd try is use the same seat at granny's house (somewhere familiar to him) before trying public toilets.

Twizbe · 18/11/2021 06:49

At home and at Granny's he can use the toilet with a seat.

That just took a little bit of bribery.

It's any toilet not at home that he has this reaction to. He cries and shakes with fear.

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Paddingtonsmarmlade · 18/11/2021 17:31

It's so difficult isn't it.

Can he explain what he doesn't like? Ds was the hand dryers and we had to promise not to use them/go near them still do. He also likes privacy so he won't even wee with me in the cubicle so I have to stand outside, and he wasn't even 4.

If the school would agree to you going in and helping him get used to the bathroom I would. Or can they come up with another plan that you think is worth trying. Maybe could he be sent with his best friend to go?

My friend has a wee bottle in the car for emergencies use (just an empty coke bottle) for her little boys. Maybe try that and then get him to pour it down the toilet.

The thing is if he won't even go in public toilets with you so you can go then he is obviously very scared of something.

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Twizbe · 18/11/2021 18:38

It's so hard.

I know he's scared of hand dryers but even when they're turned off he won't go near the toilet. He can't tell me what he's scared of and tbh at this point I think he's worked it into such a thing that even he doesn't know.

He had another accident at school today but the TA was on look out for it so he had clean trousers on.

I've asked about going in and they will let me know in the morning.

I think the next step is a doctor or some kind.

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Paddingtonsmarmlade · 18/11/2021 19:59

It might be worth looking at the ERIC website / call their helpline to see if they has some advice

Twizbe · 19/11/2021 17:39

So we had a major major breakthrough today.

I asked if I could come into school to help him wee and they said yes.

He was able to do a wee in the toilet with me there and then did 2 more without me!!!!

He was soooo proud of himself

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mayblossominapril · 19/11/2021 17:45

I’ve had similar issues with my ds. We never go in public loos. He’s fine at home, school and relatives houses with the loo. But public loos is a melt down which I struggle to manage singled handed with the baby as well.
We take a plastic pot or two out with the clip and lock lids and he does it in the pot near the car or buggy and I take it home with me. I won’t be doing it forever but it works for now.

user1493494961 · 19/11/2021 18:14

Pleased to read your update, sending best wishes.

Paddingtonsmarmlade · 20/11/2021 23:03

Wow brilliant update. Well done your son.

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