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What to do about absent father of my child

27 replies

ParistoLondon · 05/08/2021 20:49

I've NC'd for this although this post is really outing. I'll try not to drip feed without turning this into a novel so here goes.

I've got a child who's about 1,5 years old. Exhausting but an absolute joy to be around! Smile

I was seeing someone for several months, exclusive, commited, the whole shebang when I unexpectedly fell pregnant. We were shocked of course but he promised he'd be there for me and our child which was a relief. In short, he wasn't. He withdrew from then on. He'd go several weeks without replying to my messages, I'd see him even less, or he'd say he was dealing with a suicidal family member and couldn't possibly meet up which was understandable of course, I later found out he was on a night out with his mates instead. He's someone who on the surface seems like a lovely and harmless person but I did notice early on that he also had a deceitful, manipulative side to him. As in, he'd lie to my face about certain things even though he was aware I knew the truth? He'd even go as far as claiming I wasn't right in the head, that never happened, I don't know what you're talking about etc. I remember when I was about 6-7 months pregnant, I was fed up with always chasing him and trying to get him to join me for scans, classes etc. So I told him as such, as calmly as I could, and all he is intent on is making me feel like shite by saying things like, "oh, you know how I always said I loved you, that was all for a laugh, I never meant any of it" and so on. Next time I saw him, he would insist he never said it! That I was making stuff up etc when I wasn't. I can't even begin to explain how upsetting that was whenever he did this because there was no need to make me out as if I were mentally unstable or lying when I have no reason to lie about the shitty things he has said and done. Regardless of this, I wanted to, if nothing else, be able to co-parent with him for our child's sake so I turned a blind eye to this.

It was draining trying to deal with him especially when he'd try and manipulate every situation in his favour. He'd tell his parents, Paris is being difficult as usual but what he'd fail to mention is that I was being stroppy because he'd promised me he'd show up at a hospital appointment and then didn't show up at all. I got a text the next day saying how he got drunk instead and forgot all about it. Yet whenever I told him how that made me feel, I was accused of being difficult and making things hard for him. This is just one example of many. His behaviour continued even after our child was born. On average, I'd get one message every two weeks asking me how IT (his child) is doing.

When the little one was about five months old, things took a turn for the worse. We had a huge argument where I was quite vile and hurtful which is something I'm not proud of. I told him how his child really does have a piss poor excuse for a father. He retaliated by saying it's probably not even mine. I'm fully aware he only said this to be spiteful and to hurt me back after what I said to him. I told him if that's how he genuinely felt, by all means, buy a test, and let's get this sorted then. He never took me up on the offer. I have not heard from him or seen him since then. He has also blocked me on social media.

And if I'm being honest, I can't tell you what a relief it is not to have this man in mine or my child's life anymore. It wasn't just the manipulating and the lies. It was the always going out, getting drunk, wasting every night in a pub (pre lockdown, though he did go to mates houses and got drunk there during lockdown Confused), the bags and bags of coke. Hmm saying how he'd give it all up but by the next day, he was back to his old habits. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't relieved my child doesn't have to be around that anymore.

If you've read this far, thank you. My question is, my closest friend claims my child will resent me once they are older for not "forcing" a relationship with their father. That my child needs to have a relationship with their father no matter how shite he might be because she feels my babe needs to figure these things out by themselves, as in they need to see with their own eyes what a twat their dad is. I disagree with her, I do not think it's healthy for a child to be put through that. And to be honest, after everything that has been said, there is very little left to say now. He's made it clear he has no interest in this child so why should I then force this relationship on the both of them? If I felt it was in my child's best interest, I'd swallow my pride and contact their father but I believe my baby is better off without him. However, I can't stop thinking about what my friend said, I'd hate for my child to resent me because I didn't try? Any advice or even a bollocking is fine with me, too. I just want what is best for my child.

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ParistoLondon · 05/08/2021 20:51

I just realised it is a ridiculously long post. Apologies.

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Aquamarine1029 · 05/08/2021 20:54

Ignore your friend. This man is nothing but a useless, drug addled tosser who will bring no value whatsoever to your child's life. I would be thrilled that he's out of the picture.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 05/08/2021 20:56

You’re right you’re friend is wrong!

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megletthesecond · 05/08/2021 20:57

Don't contact him. Leave the idiot well alone.

RamblesShambles · 05/08/2021 20:58

Agree with above posters. He's clearly uninterested. You shouldn't have to force a father to have a relationship with their soon. If you do they're not worth having anyway.

Latinorapida · 05/08/2021 21:11

I think your friend would have a point maybe if although the dad was a piece of shit, he was still desperately trying have a relationship with his child. But that’s not what’s going on. He’s a piece of shit and is making no effort to have anything to do with his child. I mean he’s blocked the mother of his 1.5yr old. You just do not do that. Imagine if there was an emergency!

I would do the exact same if I were you. Your child can’t grow to resent YOU when it’s HIM who has behaved badly to the both of you. Don’t think you should feel guilty about having been rude to him. After years of being gaslighted and treated appallingly any human would’ve done the same.

It’s of course sad that your child can’t grow up with her father around. Hopefully one day he’ll come to his senses but you have nothing to feel guilty about.

Sounds tough and you seem to have been handling it really well. Go you! X

Brown76 · 05/08/2021 21:27

Sadly this idiot is not capable of being a father, and will diminish your strength and sanity, that you need to parent your child. Thank goodness they have one loving parent.

HelloDulling · 05/08/2021 21:39

How can you force a relationship? Despite all the evidence to the contrary, he’s an adult.

When your child asks about their father, you can be honest, and can put in a request for contact if that is what they want.

ManicPixie · 05/08/2021 22:35

I wouldn’t make any effort to bring the dad into your child’s life, but go easy on bad-mouthing dad in front of him too. You’d be surprised how much kids internalise it when one parent constantly slags off their other parent.

goddessofmischief · 05/08/2021 22:55

Sounds very familiar. Your friend is wrong. Prioritise you and baby. Don't reach out. Give him enough rope to hang himself with.

badatcrochet1996 · 05/08/2021 23:02

Friends wrong. Crack on.

unim · 05/08/2021 23:07

Your instinct is spot-on.

I recommend going to see a psychotherapist to work through your emotions about it all, and to have a place to talk through how you may deal with it as a parent. I've been in a similar situation (absent father, young baby) and it was emotionally tough and having somebody to talk it through with made such a huge difference.

Persipan · 06/08/2021 07:51

In terms of outcomes for children, not having a father in your life isn't inherently a bad thing. Traumatically not having a parent present anymore could be an issue, but that's not something that's currently happening for your child - I doubt they have any awareness of him at all. That's not to say they won't sometimes be curious, or go through times when they feel sad about not having a father in their life, but those things would be happening in abstract ways and I'm sure you'll support them with their feelings at all times.

Were you to try and force a relationship, on the other hand (not sure how you'd do this, tbh, but assuming you somehow could) then I do think, given your ex's track record, that this could result in exactly that kind of traumatic abandonment - if he randomly buggers off again, it's not some theoretical thing for your child, it's an actual flesh-and-blood rather who was there and then wasn't again. It sounds as though your friend is almost advocating for this - thinking that by letting it happen, your child would come to learn for themselves what their father is like, and therefore won't blame you at any point for his absence. But to be honest, I think in that situation I'd be okay with shouldering that blame, if it ever surfaced, because the alternative is to deliberately put your child in a situation they're likely to be emotionally hurt by.

I will say, my answer would be different if he were at all present and trying for a relationship - I'm not necessarily advocating cutting him off if he does resurface. But I wouldn't go looking for him, no.

(Also, side note, any posters feeling tempted to refer to him as 'a sperm donor', please don't. Sperm donors are great; they're thoughtfully choosing to help create lives. This guy is not that. He's just a dick.)

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 06/08/2021 07:53

Your friend is an idiot. Jesus.

ImInStealthMode · 06/08/2021 07:56

Ignore your friend UNLESS at some point down the line this dickhead comes to his senses and seeks contact again somewhere down the line, or your child grows up and wants to seek him out.

You don't have to force a relationship, but don't deliberately stand in the way of one either x

AllHallowsEve14 · 06/08/2021 08:09

You're doing the right thing. My dd7 hasn't seen her father since she was about 1.5 completely his choice. Over the years I have sent pictures to him, let him know how she is etc I think I was doing that so my dd would know I tried. I've given up anyway, it's pointless and upsetting. Don't listen to your friend.

JanuaryBones · 06/08/2021 08:20

I grew up with no contact from my biological dad. My mum never badmouthed him, he was just not spoken about. When I was older I asked about the ins and outs and she told me about the abuse and infidelity and I completely understood.
She let me meet him at 13 and then again at 17 and picked up the pieces when I felt completely let down and manipulated by him. That's the best thing you can do. Don't promote a relationship but when you're DC is older if they want to seek contact then I would help them and try to stay civil and calm. It's never because you're not enough for them, it's usually because your dc is curious about parts of themselves.
Also please never say 'you're just like your father' when your dc knows you hate their father.
Could your dc have a relationship with their paternal grandparents?
Good luck OP you sound like a fantastic mother!

OverTheRubicon · 06/08/2021 08:32

Your child will do better without him, frankly.

However whether or not he sees his child, he still owes them financial support. Does he pay proper child maintenance now? If not, you should make it official, they'll take a cut (and he seems likely to try to wiggle out) but will be better than you having to chase him for it yourself.

FatAnkles · 06/08/2021 08:48

I don't think you can force your child's birth father into a relationship he clearly doesn't want. It might be more damaging in the long run.

As pp have said, don't badmouth him to your child but be ready for questions as he gets older. Be truthful.

ParistoLondon · 06/08/2021 10:23

Thank you, @JanuaryBones Flowers Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Once he's older and he would like to meet him, I'd make sure that happens. But as of right now, I do think it's best not to pursue this, regardless of my friend's opinion. My son's paternal grandparents aren't involved anymore. Their choice. It's a shame because I always got on well with them. His mum, especially. But she has made it clear she is firmly on her son's side. Last time I spoke to her she said that even though she is aware what her son is capable of, he's still her "precious baby boy" (her words) and will stand by him no matter what. It's a shame she's missing out on her first grandchild because of this. But it is what it is kind of thing.

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ParistoLondon · 06/08/2021 10:28

@AllHallowsEve14 I'm sorry to hear that. It's devastating to hear your DD's father has not reached out at all for all those years. Makes you think what goes on in some people's mind to abandon their child like that. For what it's worth, you sound amazing.

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Letsallscreamatthesistene · 06/08/2021 10:28

Errrr trying to force a relationship when he is not interested is going to cause way more harm in the long run. In the future there will be scenarios where your child is old enough to understand that they've been stood up/forgotten about/neglected. Id save your child from that and crack on with being a single parent. Both your and your daughters lives will be way less complicated 🙂

StCharlotte · 06/08/2021 10:33

The only relationship your son needs with him is a financial one through maintenance.

(Don't tell me - he's "self employed".)

You will do a great job on your own as do so many brilliant single mums Smile

flameycakes · 06/08/2021 10:35

Friend is wrong and totally out of order. Personally I'd ditch the friend, you don't need that sort of judgemental claptrap in your life

54321nought · 06/08/2021 10:37

He's taking coke, so a relationship with the human around the outside of the coke isn't possible anyway. The only relationship available is with the coke itself.