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My almost 4 year is pretty much refusing to eat.

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ThornAmongstRoses · 17/07/2021 17:33

Im at the end of my tether with my almost 4 year old refusing to eat Sad

When he was younger he was so picky with his food and evening meal times would be such a battle and they would usually end up with me in tears out of sheer worry because he just wouldn’t eat.

But then when he turned 2.5 years old it all sort of resolved and he became a really good eater.

Over the last month though he’s been wanting to eat less in the evening again, picking at it, saying he’s not hungry, only eating if really cajoled etc but over the last 6 days he’s pretty much refused to eat at all.

No matter what we do he just screams at most mealtimes and says NO whenever we try and encourage him to eat. He seems to get so angry about it.

I’ve gone through all the reactions of anger, anxiety, upset, frustrated and currently my emotions are split between being so fed up of it but also worried.

It’s now 5.15pm and all he’s had since 7am is two yogurts.

We make him sit with us at the dinner table each evening, which he goes mad about, and then when we’ve all finished our own meals we just throw his untouched dinner away.

He’s gone to bed three times in the last week with having had absolutely nothing to eat since about midday.

We’ve tried ignoring the behaviour and we’ve tried telling him off and we’ve tried bribes and nothing makes any difference. Sometimes he ends up hysterical over the matter, even if all we’ve done is put his plate down on the table.

We don’t know whether to offer him an alternative when he refuses what we give him? We don’t know whether to give him a side of toast so at least he’s not going to bed hungry At the end of my tether with my almost 4 year old refusing to eat.

When he was younger he was so picky with his food and evening meal times would be such a battle and would usually end up with me in tears out of sheer worry because he just wouldn’t eat.

But then when he turned 2.5 years old it all sort of resolved and he became a really good eater.

Over the last month he’s been wanting to eat less in the evening again, picking at it, saying he’s not hungry, only eating if really cajoled etc but over the last 6 days he’s pretty much refusing to eat.

No matter what we do he just screams at most mealtimes and says NO whenever we try and get him to eat.

I’ve gone through all the reactions of anger, anxiety, upset, frustrated and currently just so fed up of it but also worried.

It’s now 5.15pm and all he’s had since 7am is two yogurts.

We make him sit with us at the dinner table each evening, which he goes mad about, and then when we’ve all finished we just throw his away and it’s always untouched.

He’s gone to bed three times in the last week with having had absolutely nothing to eat since about midday.

We’ve tried ignoring it and we’ve tried telling him off and we’ve tried bribes and nothing makes any difference. Sometimes he ends up hysterical over the matter, even if all we’ve done is put his place down on the table.

We don’t know whether to offer him alternative? We don’t know whether to give him a slice of toast so at least he’s not going to bed hungry, but then we worry whether that teaches him he can refuse to eat and then have what he wants (he loves toast).

Sometimes when we go to throw his untouched dinner in the bin he’s completely nonchalant, but on other occasions he starts crying inconsolably and screaming that he wants his dinner but if we we do give it back to him he then refuses to eat it for about another 15-20 minutes and it ends up in the bin anyway.

I’m just so worried. He’s only tiny (15th percentile) so the thought of him barely eating concerns me.

We don’t know whether to give him consequences for refusing his dinner, like no story before bed for example, or do we just act like his behaviour doesn’t matter?!

We just don’t know what to do.

I know this post is erratic but that’s how my thoughts are.

Can I really send him to bed tonight with only having had two yogurts since 7am?

Any advice, support or solidarity is much needed. Sad

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InvincibleInvisibility · 17/07/2021 17:55

Have you checked that he hasnt got any cuts or ulcers in his mouth? My DS stopped eating and turned out he had hand, foot and mouth disease - the only symptom for him was mouth ulcers

A month is a long time though.

How is he at swallowing? A friend's DS is 7 and very underweight cos he barely eats. Turns out he has throat problems making it difficult to swallow - currently seeing a Dr

00100001 · 17/07/2021 18:00

No consequences for not eating. That's setting him up for failure and poor food relationships.

For now, give him something you know he'll eat and if you can get a multivitamin down him, even better. He might be struggling to swallow as PP said, so try him in soft foods, soups, mash, yogurts, smoothies etc.

Get him to the GPs soon.

ThornAmongstRoses · 17/07/2021 18:05

I should have said, that he eats absolutely fine at his childminders, or if he’s at his grandparents, or at a friend’s house for example, it’s just at home he plays up.

He asks for treats all day long, biscuits, crisps, mini rolls etc (which of course he doesn’t get) and he’d eat them absolutely fine if we gave them to him.

It’s purely behavioural and that’s why I’m finding it so hard to manage Sad

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Kanaloa · 17/07/2021 18:07

If it’s just at home it sounds like he’s picking up on your anxiety about his eating. For example, you being in tears about a 2 year old not eating sounds like you’re very anxious.

I would just give some toast/weetabix so he’s had something and ignore him otherwise. No big fuss, no one more bite, please try this, you need to eat this.

CrouchEndTiger12 · 17/07/2021 18:09

I should have said, that he eats absolutely fine at his childminders, or if he’s at his grandparents, or at a friend’s house for example, it’s just at home he plays up.

He knows playing up works and he knows it gets your attention.

Crying that your toddler won't finish their food is a bit extreme. He's always known it is a sore point for you.

Put something down for dinner you know he will eat at grandparents or anywhere else. Encourage him to sit at the table. If when dinner time is over he hasn't touched it. Bin it and give him nothing else. But don't react with anger or any emotion. Just bin it and say nothing.

00100001 · 17/07/2021 18:10

Oh, well, if it's behaviour.

You just need to ignore it.

Serve him his food without comment or expectations etc

Give him supper if toast (or whatever) whether he eats dinner or not.

Radio4ordie · 17/07/2021 18:12

Try making dinner where he puts food on his plate, like tapas or (non spicy) fajitas with a least two things you know he would eat like grated cheese or whatever. Then don’t give him attention for eating or not eating. Just be very chill, have a nice chat.

Seems like meal times (understandably) have got really fraught and stressful. So try to create a situation where you all can be more relaxed.

ThornAmongstRoses · 17/07/2021 18:14

For example, you being in tears about a 2 year old not eating sounds like you’re very anxious.

That was two years ago and due to 18 months of him barely eating because of food allergies he had etc. He was so tiny and underweight and under dieticians which of course meant that I was anxious about the fact he didn’t eat.

I do get your point about him picking up on my anxiety, but I doubt he has any memories of my worries from two years ago. And like I said, for the last 18 months he’s been a great eater so I haven’t had any anxiety around his intake.

I just don’t understand why he’s started doing it.

I know though if we just keep giving him toast every night then he’s got every reason in the world to refuse to eat his main meal.

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JaffaRaf · 17/07/2021 18:14

Have you tried making it fun? Getting him involved? If he’s tiny and not eating I’d absolutely offer an alternative that you no he will eat. Kids go through all sorts of phases, it’s normal, and you don’t have to win every battle. So don’t cry about it, just give him something else to eat and move on, he will start trying stuff again in his own time.

mamaoffourdc · 17/07/2021 18:16

We were told to do a weekly food diary - she never ate never with us, fussed all the time but rather than us looking at an individual day when we looked at what she ate over the week it was ok.
Try and take emotion out of it (hard I know) food refusal at this age is a test of boundaries with parents. Offer the food at set times and if he doesn't eat it, just remove it (we always offered a yogurt and apple regardless if the main meal was refused)
She is now 15 - we have had issues over the years and was diagnosed with arfid 4 years ago but she enjoys the social act of eating meals together and we have found a balance that keeps everyone happy. She was on the 10th percentile when born and this was consistent during her younger years
Sending you strength to get through this x

ChipsAndKetchup · 17/07/2021 18:31

Read a book called War and Peas.

It sounds like it's about your emotional reaction to his not eating. My son was like that. I would then start putting down his food and leaving the room and peeping around the corner where he couldn't see me and sure enough he would eat.

CrabbyCat · 17/07/2021 18:33

No idea if this is an accepted approach, but we work on the basis you can control one of what they eat or how they eat, not both. Particularly when tired, either we give in and cook something they will eat easily at the dinner table, or we accept they eat what we have cooked for dinner somewhere else (I only cook things they do actually at least sort of like, I'm not talking about getting them to eat something they don't like). Mine will eat a lot more reliably if fed it in the bath / in front of TV. Have you tried saving his dinner and feeding him somewhere else when he's partly distracted?

Chocolatetrifle · 17/07/2021 21:42

Sending you support, this is very very hard. My DS1 , almost 4 has been like this a lot recently, says he is not hungry, not interested in much, even when he's previously liked it. Is it an age thing? A power thing? Perhaps.

I would suggest a Dr appointment to initially rule our a sore throat etc.

Think it's important to get something in him, so keep offering him the food you are preparing. Don't make it into a battle ground. The more relaxed you are, he will be. If he doesn't eat much of the main course, still offer him a pudding. I don't believe in making punishments out of not eating.

Offer him some cereal or toast or crumpets or similar as a supper.

Offer him something you know he likes, so if he likes his yoghurt, give him his yoghurt with his main meal, he may each bits of both.

Distraction, how about a new plate/bowl/ cutlery? Can you read him a book or show him a magazine and assist him to eat his meals at the same time, a few mouthfuls at a time? How about a picnic style/less formal meal on the floor or at a toddler table. There's plenty of time for formal adult style dining experiences.

If he loves toast, give him some cheese or ham with it and some chopped up veg,. Start small and build up. Lots of encouragement. And a multivitamin. Good luck.

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