7week old won’t sleep in crib and chokes himself

[Culldawg]

This has probably been mentioned before and I have read through some advice but nothing is really working or matching my situation.

My 7wo baby goes to sleep at night around 10.30/11pm and he will go down in his next to me crib okay for a few hours then wakes up for a feed (breast) which is fine. So I’ll feel him change him if needed and he’ll fall asleep or he is very sleepy and I’ll put him back In his crib. Then he will make all sorts of grunting noises, start gurgling not swallowing his saliva so then it’s like he’s choking and coughing and then wakes himself up or we get so worried we pick him up. He doesn’t do this every time he’s laid down but does do it for day time naps but not as extreme and usually settles.

Whatever time he wakes (usually 2.30am) that’s it for the rest of the night/morning, I’m awake trying to get him to sleep in his crib until eventually it’s 6am/7am and I give up and let him just sleep on me or his dad because I feel bad he’s not properly slept.

I’ve tried putting crib is in a tilt Incase it’s reflux.
He sleeps in a swaddle suit
I’ve tried patting him to settle
Tried a dummy he spits it out
Tired putting my smell in the crib
He’s got a sheep that plays womb sounds
Put him in not fully asleep snd tried to sooth him
I keep everything dark, clam

If he does eventually settle then it’s for half an hour then He wakes up crying.

At this point in considering co sleeping just to get some sleep but i really don’t want to.

Sounds like it could be silent reflux to me. I'd try speaking to your GP/HV and see if they can help.

I agree it sounds like reflux.

Can I ask why you don’t want to cosleep? It is the risk? Have a look at the leaflet below about the situations in which SIDS has occurred in the U.K.
www.unicef.org.uk/babyfriendly/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/Co-sleeping-and-SIDS-A-Guide-for-Health-Professionals.pdf

I had this and the problem with co sleeping is that it doesn’t solve the problem because the baby doesn’t want to be put on his back. So it isn’t co sleeping safely, it’s sleeping with the baby on you. And I have fallen asleep holding ds like that but it’s obviously not ideal.

I have worked out how to feed ds without getting him out of his crib which is a game changer but that’s only recently and he’s just turned five months. It could be worth a try, but I appreciate difficult.

OP I had the EXACT same thing, second baby so
I knew about the 4th trimester and clingy babies but this was different I physically couldn’t put my baby on their back. She also sounded congested when she wasn’t.
It took me months of endless gp visits and reflux medications (bullshit) and googling to finally speak to a paediatrician who would listen to me and agree with my diagnosis of kidshealth.org/en/parents/laryngomalacia.html

My child was finally diagnosed at 5 months old by an ENT dr and had a very small operation a wk later. She’s now nearly 7 months and so much better.

In those months of waiting I had no choice but to sleep
My baby on her tummy- I even told my HV that I knew it wasn’t ideal but I had no choice as she got too big to sleep on us and once slipped off me onto the bed and scared the shit out of me.
You know your baby best, I’d bother your GP until you can see a paediatrician.

Thank you I’ll speak to the dr next week when we have his jabs and check up.

So last night my husband just ended up putting him in bed with us and laid him slightly on his side supported, and then when he fell asleep put him on his back flat in bed and he didn’t make the choking noises or gather loads of saliva. So I don’t know if he’s doing it almost on purpose because he doesn’t like being put in his crib.

Yeah I’ve fallen asleep with him on my chest too. I always make sure his head is turned to the side and nose is not pressed against my chest more like hanging off my boob so that it’s clear and I keep my hand on his head so he doesn’t turn it and nuzzle into me, just Incase I do drift off.

This is a great infographic and reassuring. I’m just scared I’ll roll over onto him so when he has been put in bed with us he sleeps on my husbands side as he’s more confident and knows he won’t.

Can you put the sides up on the crib, then prop the head end of it up (on a couple of books), so he is flat on his back but lying on an incline?

My DS had this (silent reflux). I coslept with him for the first couple of months then he slept on his tummy in his cot. I know tummy sleeping is against guidelines but I felt 100% more at ease with him on his tummy than on his back spluttering his guts out. He's now almost 3 and those reflux days are behind us.

@HumunaHey

My DS had this (silent reflux). I coslept with him for the first couple of months then he slept on his tummy in his cot. I know tummy sleeping is against guidelines but I felt 100% more at ease with him on his tummy than on his back spluttering his guts out. He's now almost 3 and those reflux days are behind us.

This is extremely unsafe, OP - don’t do this.

I agree it sounds like reflux. Speak to your GP about medication. Omeprazole made a huge difference to my baby. He used to be just like yours, but now he sleeps comfortably on his back.

I have done this, the crib can be adjusted either side so it’s on a slant already.

Did he wake up immediately After putting him down? because I’m not sure if it’s the fact that we’ve put him down and he knows and just doesn’t want to be put down; or if it is the reflux start immediately:

He always squirms and wriggle a lot whilst making all the noises and kind of gives himself hiccups.

@Culldawg

This is a great infographic and reassuring. I’m just scared I’ll roll over onto him so when he has been put in bed with us he sleeps on my husbands side as he’s more confident and knows he won’t.

Your DH is more likely to roll onto him than you. Google the c position, I think it’s on the lullaby trust website, it’s how to sleep to prevent yourself rolling onto your baby.