Moving into nursery

[snuzi]

Hi,

What is the age you mover your LO into their nursery?

I know the advice is 6 months to a year but my son is almost too long for his next to me crib at 2 months!!

Not sure what I am to do as his cot would no way fit in our room.

He might have another month or two at max but obviously this only takes us to 4 months

Thanks

The advice for child rearing changes all the time. Co sleep/ don't co sleep. Feed to a schedule / feed on demand. Lay the baby on its side /front/back.......Each generation is advised to do the complete opposite of the one before. It's a wonder any of us made it to adulthood.

@StapMe

The advice for child rearing changes all the time. Co sleep/ don't co sleep. Feed to a schedule / feed on demand. Lay the baby on its side /front/back.......Each generation is advised to do the complete opposite of the one before. It's a wonder any of us made it to adulthood.

Plenty didn’t make it to adulthood, that is why research happens and advice changes but tbh it doesn’t change all the time. As an example laying baby on their back has been around since the early 90’s and since then the number of deaths from SIDS has decreased hugely.

^in 1989 there were 1,545 SIDS cases in the UK. This fell to 647 in 1992, the year after the Back to Sleep campaign launched in 1991.
In 2014 there were 128 SIDS cases, testimony that the campaigns aimed at reducing SIDS worked^

Because if you co-sleep following the guidance you make a C-shape around your baby, like the recovery position, which prevents you from rolling over onto them. Night studies also show that co-sleeping in the position a breastfeeding mum will naturally choose (which is also what the guidance says) means you have a kind of awareness and won't roll onto them. Of course it's possible that it could happen anyway - particularly if you are drunk, on medication which makes you drowsy or especially tired, but statistically this is such a rare event or co-sleeping has a slightly protective effect which balances it out, the understanding I have is that the research we have is insufficient to tell and cot death is now thankfully so rare that it's very unlikely we'll ever get the answer unless gene studies eventually figure it out.

But if you don't feel comfortable then it's not a good solution for you. The better solution if he outgrows the cot too soon would either be moving him into his own room or finding some way to fit a cot into your room, perhaps by moving your bed or moving the mattress onto the floor. That would be a bit extreme for me but it works for some people.

2-4 months I think is the riskiest period, but the rates definitely drop dramatically after 4 months. I can try and find a source if you want.

Lullaby Trust do say up to 6 months is the highest risk period in their literature for parents.

It's tricky because of course it isn't a sudden switch where something is risky and then it's magically safe. In reality there is a gradual lessening of the risks, and everyone would draw the line for being comfortable in a different place.

This is where I've read four months:

www.basisonline.org.uk/sids-and-safety/

The Lullaby Trust also has a very detailed evidence base you can search through on their website which suggests 1-3 months as the most risky period and several risk factors are mentioned as decreasing in significance at 3 or 4 months variously. But that's quite long and complicated so I won't link - you can find it if you really want to.

@BertieBotts thank you, I guess they do not want to publish the risks months by month as it may encourage people to do it early when they want people to wait until 6 months at the earliest..

I'd imagine the risk reduces significantly far before 6 months.. but they say 6 months as people will think oh 6 months so I can do it x amount early if needs be

But if it was 4 months and they said 4 months people might still do it early

If that makes sense (in sleep deprived )

[quote snuzi]@olderthanyouthink he was a bigger baby but the main problem is that he has really long legs and sleeps stretched out. He's already moving into 3-6 sleepsuits as his feet get all squashed at the bottom (very annoying as the fit on the body is way to big).

He's not outgrown it yet but there is no way he will last 6 months in it.

Definitely no room for the cot in our bedroom, even if I moved out furniture. We wouldn't be able to get in the room.

Not sure what risk is greater - moving him out early or having him in bed with us
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Have a look at the lullaby safe 7 if you can do that then cosleeping is safer.

Possibly that too, but I would guess it's more that it drops somewhat at 4 months and it has dropped even further by 6 months and so they consider 6 months the more significant guideline, whereas other sources consider 4 months the significant guideline.

I don't know the exact numbers so I am not sure.

Can’t you just put the cot in your room?

We moved DS1 from Moses basket into travel cot in our room and in to his own room at 6 months. One of TMNT biggest parenting regrets! DS2 moved into his own room at 4 months and was a much smoother transition.

My daughter had a travel cot in our room for a few months until she was old enough to go into her nursery

The chance of you rolling over and squishing your baby are tiny. You can sense they are there. Also move your husband out do the bee (unpopular opinion I'm sure) if you're going to cosleep. Make sure the bed is firm, just one or two pillow for you and a blanket from waist down. Nothing on baby. As others have said make a C shape and baby sleeps inside it.
Most cases of co sleeping deaths will involve a risk factor such as - sleeping on a couch, smoking, drinking, medication. It really isn't as risky as you think if you are not in a high risk group, even leas so if breast feeding. It's an easier message for NHS to say just don't do it, but do some digging and you'll find it can be done safely.
The higher risk is moving the baby out too soon.

On the cot thing, I bought a mini crib, it's like half the size of a cot. Would something like that be an option? I never used it as she refused to sleep in it and so we co-slept. But I'm sure you can find a sleeping option that is longer than a next to me but not as big as cot

Other option being set up a single bed in the nursery .

@StapMe

The advice for child rearing changes all the time. Co sleep/ don't co sleep. Feed to a schedule / feed on demand. Lay the baby on its side /front/back.......Each generation is advised to do the complete opposite of the one before. It's a wonder any of us made it to adulthood.

The current sleep guidance has been in place for about 30 years.