Perfect Prep

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This is what Norfolk Health Authority says about Perfect Prep:
Perfect Prep machines
Some people now use ‘Perfect Prep machines’. We advise you against using one of
these machines. This is because they deliver a small volume (‘shot’) of very hot water
and then add cool water to make up the rest of the feed. This is not sufficient to kill the
bacteria in formula milk. The Food Standards Agency recommends using cooled, boiled
water above 70 degrees centigrade to make up infant formula.

Do you agree with this please? Did you have any issues please?

Probably the single best 'baby stuff' purchase we made. As others have said, keep it clean and replace the filters (with official ones) when the light comes on

I bought one, used it a few times but DS had really bad wind. Because it ‘froths’ the milk a bit (by the force of water going into the bottle), it just made it worse.

We tried leaving it to settle for 20 mins etc but it never suit him. In the end we had to use liquid pre-made formula so there was zero added air from shaking and bottles with valves to let the air escape.

Would have been great if baby had cooperated!

I’ve used it since day dot and had no problems. I’ve had midwives tell me they think it’s brilliant and that they wished it had been available when they had babies. Clean it and change the filters when required and it’ll be fine. If you neglect it and have problems then thats down to the user and not the machine.

Funny how the ones saying they dont like them have never actually tried one, or have BF so dont need one....

I had one. Best baby product I bought.

I've used mine for a year and not had one bout of sickness or diarrhoea, it's the best thing ever. My mum always says she wishes she had it when we were little!

Can I ask does anyone measure the temperature of the kettle they are making the formula up with? You boil the kettle leave it to cool for up to 30mins (every kettle is different and people have ++ limescale in kettle etc) then pour it into the bottle. It's not advised to use boiling water to make up formula.
I know that the NHS cannot recommend a certain brand and that it why they cannot say yeah definitely get a perfect prep.
Do your own research op. I loved my PP my sister works for tommee tippee. Cleaned it, used the proper filters and it's immaculate.

Loved it. No issues.

It's not the hot shot people should be concerned about. It's the bacteria, mould and viruses living inside the pipes that is the real concern with the Perfect Prel Machine. The 'cleaning' and 'descale' cycles will reduce the harmful content, but not eliminate it. If you baby's bottle was as dirty as the inside of some of those machines, you really wouldn't give it to your child, or consume it yourself. You can replicate a prep by using a kettle and a Britas water filter, far safer, cheaper and far more hygienic.

I’ve used one for my child without any issues

I’ve used one in a work setting for over 100 babies and not a single one had any issues

It’s like all food prep machines - you have to use it properly and you must keep it clean. If you never cleaned the lines in a pub, or a coffee machine, or cleaned your oven, all those things would make you ill. It’s the same with this :)

I think given the 3-4 minutes (?) it takes to prep a bottle and the need to clean the thing I’d rather use half boiling water, stir, then add half cool boiled water. I’m battling to see the convenience here.

@EssentialHummus

I think given the 3-4 minutes (?) it takes to prep a bottle and the need to clean the thing I’d rather use half boiling water, stir, then add half cool boiled water. I’m battling to see the convenience here.

Have you used one?

Used it for both my girls from newborn to one. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I added the formula scoops to the bottle, then put the 70 degree hotshot into the powder. Mixed. Then the rest of the water. Why would the 70 degrees not kill the bacteria? It’s going directly into the formula & is red hot, I checked several times with a thermometer.. ours ran at about 72 degrees..

Best thing we owned!

You literally turn the dial to the size of the feed required, put your bottle with the formula powder under the dispenser, press a button and that's it. I know you can use the kettle and cooled boiled water (for free) and measure it out yourself, but being able to unload the top of the dishwasher, pair socks or whatever, or just zone out for thirty seconds is handy. Would I pay £60 again for it? Fuck yes.

I had some doubts over using one when DD was tiny but through reading other forums in the US/Canada and speaking with the GP realised much the same as BertieBotts re. the guidance in other countries.

@Letsallscreamatthesistene I used one for a friend’s baby in my home over a few months (we used to split childcare). I just don’t get it, I’m sorry. It’s a bit like when people swear that the Sleepyhead/Ewan/swaddling/whatever saved their sanity with young kids. I’m happy for them but I don’t get it.

I loved ours! No issues at all, we used it until she was 1 and transferred to cows milk, it saved my sanity, made night feeds a breeze. Worth every single penny!

OP, have you considered breastfeeding at all? There's lots of support out there now including for advice on twins, to me the advice by a breastfeeding consultant made all the difference. I have both FF and BF in the past and have found breastfeeding SO convenient compared with all the faff with bottles that we had with our first.

I had one and it was really handy. I am very strict about cleaning it and top it up with water that I've britta filtered.

Has anyone with a perfect prep machine done a cleaning cycle with sterilising fluid and forgot to remove the filter?
Will this filter still be ok to use it’s literally bran new I’m nervous to use it now!

I think it’s accurate, but it’s up to parents to decide if the risk (which is small) is worth it for the sake of a hungry baby not having to wait for a bottle.

Formula fed babies are at greater risk of sickness than breastfed because of bacteria in formula powder, but I’m not sure PP machines increase that risk in any significant way.

@Tinkerbellswings I used to do that 20 years ago with my eldest then 10 years ago with ds3 not sure if this machine was out then but I’d probably have got one.

I know this is an old post but hoping someone can answer

If i do this method i.e "hot shot" of boiking water to kill bacteria ..add formula and then add room temp cooled boil water..wont that disrupt the measurements since its said always add water to the level you want and then add formula. But if formula powder is already in the hot water and then we top it..wont it make measurements wrong?

I used this method sometimes and I used to pour the very hot water into the bottle to half the volume needed, add formula, mix, then measure the cold water out in a separate container (eg another bottle) before pouring it into the bottle.

Yes it will if you do it using the lines on the same one bottle. You have to measure it separately.

However, I am pretty sure that I read it's not that exact anyway, and measurement lines on bottles vary quite a bit. If you have bottles from different brands you can check this. Another way to do it is measure how much the correct volume of water plus formula powder weighs, then use a digital scale to measure out your water. (Or set it to ounces, zero off after the formula is added and do to the correct number of fl. oz)