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11 week old rarely engages

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Foxglove21 · 21/04/2021 07:53

My 11, nearly 12 week old baby rarely engages with us. It was identified at his 8 week GP developmental check that he still wasn't social smiling. He finally smiled at around 10 weeks, however he only really smiles at us perhaps once every few days and it's very hit and miss.

He also rarely makes eye contact with us, and will go out of his way to avoid looking at us (if we move to be in his eye line he will quickly move away). He's fascinated by the walls/ceiling/pictures on the walls/inside cover of his pram and will give them lovely smiles.

He similarly doesn't track us/objects of interest with his eyes very well; about 90% of the time when we try to encourage this he's staring off into the distance. He doesn't look at us when we come into the room, shows little interest in anything we show him.

He passed his newborn hearing test, and passed the eye checks at the development check up.

My GP has now referred him to a pediatrician and I can't stop worrying and feeling upset about it; sure that it means he's got autism. I know they can't test for this until much later on, but the anxiety is really getting to me. My health visitor isn't interested and keeps just saying nothing can be done about it. Due to covid I've missed out on meeting mums with babies the same age as mine, so can't really make a comparison to see what's within the general lines of "normal'.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their babies at this younger age? How did it work out?

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CoalCraft · 21/04/2021 11:54

@HelpfulBelle

DS1 (8) has ASD and ADHD, he’s also exceeding at reading/writing/maths at school and has really excellent friendships.

Autism isn’t necessarily what you think it is Flowers

I think the problem with the word "autism" is it's such a wide range. If everyone with autism was like your DS very few people would be concerned about their children having it. Rather, people are afraid that their child will struggle with learning or emotional difficulties (no one wants their child to struggle), or even will be non-verbal and be unable to live an independent life. I don't think it's unreasonable to boy want that.
Chickenlickeninthepot · 21/04/2021 12:16

My DS smiled at a picture in our living room for two weeks before he smiled at me. Used to constantly prat round trying to entertain but apparently a print of New York was much more fun than the woman who birthed him.

Somethingsnappy · 21/04/2021 13:46

He is so young, OP, especially given that he was a hair's breadth from being classed as premature. Shapes and shadows fascinate babies of that age. Also, when you try going into his line of sight, how close to him are you? Is he on your knee or very close to your face? Sometimes that seems too intense for them in my experience. Have you tried putting him in a bouncer or something and stepping back slightly and then trying to engage? My ds much prefers this position to look at us. Also, tiredness will put babies off wanting to engage. Try catching him when he's recently woken up?

As for the smiling thing, it takes a while from the very first smile, for it to become more regular. My 4 month old is very smiley now, but for a few weeks following his first smile, he'd only smile once or twice a day!

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Numnumcookie · 21/04/2021 20:23

Children's eyesight isn't fully formed at birth, we have to learn how to use our eyes. Gratings are one of the first things babies recognise after faces, so it's perfectly normal for them to stare at the blinds Smile. Eyesight checks on babies are pretty basic and mostly just ensure the eye is healthy. Being born early means there's a higher chance of him being long sighted so good to get him checked properly by an optometrist at some point and rule out glasses first.

Embracelife · 21/04/2021 20:35

It s good he is being checked out - eyes ears development in general.
Don't step too far ahead.
If there are issues to deal with so be it...lots of support on special needs board here
Even there are some very rare conditions which can be treated to stop further issues so always good to get checked out

SamanthaVimes · 22/04/2021 07:03

At that age he probably still hasn’t realised he’s a separate person to you yet. My baby would happily smile at a blank patch of wall (she’d genuinely look around me to do it) but I was very boring because she thought I was a part of her that happened to move around a lot more.

She’s 9 months now and we’ve had plenty of smiles and giggles!

Especially given he was early I really wouldn’t worry op. In a few weeks you’ll be getting loads of smiles I expect.

Shopaholic20 · 21/02/2023 23:50

Hi OP what was the outcome for your baby if you don’t mind me asking! My nearly 11 week old sounds very similar. Thanks x

Foxglove21 · 25/02/2023 14:17

Update 2 years on, as I know this is really what I was looking for when I was worrying about this.

My little one has just recently turned two and he is now the most sociable, happy, joyful little boy. He loves chatting with us all and plays well with other children; he makes us laugh every day with his sweet personality. He suddenly started smiling properly/regularly about 12-14 weeks or so if I remember correctly.

Looking back on his early weeks with a clearer mind I think it maybe partly was due to him suffering with reflux and being in pain with that, but mostly I think it was just one of those things. We think back and giggle now about how we used to joke that he loved the light shade and the walls more than us as he was so mesmerised by them.

It's easy for me to say this now, but I do feel it's a bit of a shame really that my GP let me get so worked up about it- they were really insistent that it wasn't 'normal' that he wasn't smiling by 8 weeks or so, when really he just happened to be a little late to the party with it... it's made no blind bit of difference to how he is now.

He was a little later than others to start talking properly and I found I was less worried this time as I knew he'd get there eventually, as he did with his smiling. And I was right- one day it was like a switch had flipped and he had lots of new words.

Hope this brings some comfort to others who might be worrying about similar :)

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Foxglove21 · 25/02/2023 14:18

Shopaholic20 · 21/02/2023 23:50

Hi OP what was the outcome for your baby if you don’t mind me asking! My nearly 11 week old sounds very similar. Thanks x

Hey, just provided an update below :)

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Soneurotic · 30/03/2023 13:50

Thanks for updating foxglove. I’ve been reading all the threads about this as my son is exactly as you describe and it’s so hard not to worry, and I’m upset I’m not enjoying him being little!

pinkunicorns54 · 30/03/2023 13:56

I read your OP and was about to comment reassuring you as my now 15 week old was the same at 11weeks.

But seeing your update is even better and helpful for me 😊. Thank you for sharing!

INeedNewShoes · 30/03/2023 15:23

Great to see your update all these months down the line!

I completely agree re the milestones and numbers the babies have to hit and the pressure it creates. I had a lot of medical concern re DD's low weight as a baby but luckily there was one reassuring voice amidst it all to stop me thinking there was something hideously wrong. She's fine weight wise at 6yo - she's just a long thin person!

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