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DO YOU PUT YOUR CHILD IN THE FRONT SEAT?

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sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:02

My ds is almost 9mths old and I drop him off to the CM's every morning on my way to work and then pick him up inb the evening. The CM lives around the corner from me. My ds hates sitting in the car seat and will scream the house down. However, I have noticed that if he is sitting in his car seat in the front passenger seat he is fine. So the 5 min journey there and back could be much more pleasurable. However, is it a total health and safety no no to have your baby in the front seat?

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Lubyloo · 11/11/2007 22:05

It is ok as long as you don't have a passenger airbag or if you have you need to have disabled it. It is safer to be in the back though. My DD is in the front passenger seat as we can't get a car seat to fit on our back seat- we have tried just about every car seat we can find but none fit.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:13

How do you disable the airbag lubyloo?

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Isawbumperkissingsantaclaus · 11/11/2007 22:19

I put DD in the front seat as it's easier because we only have a 3 door car, and I hate the thought of not being able to see her/reach her when driving (yes I know there is a risk when I put her dummy back in while driving but probably less of a risk than me trying to drive with a screaming baby because she has taken the dummy out and can't get it back in - again!). I didn't realise it was an issue actually.

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HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 11/11/2007 22:20

I have a button on the inside of the passenger door to turn the airbag off. If you haven't, you'll need to get a garage to do it.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:23

Ok your name is too long to repeat so I'm going to call you santa Does your passenger seat have a air bag? I agree with you I think it is more of a risk driving with your left hand permantely seraching for a toy! ds can see my and we can have a sing song on the 5 min journey to CM. It is such a lovely start to the day, rather than dropping off a grumpy baby.

Lubyloo just asked my dh and apparently it is illegal to dismantle an exiisting airbag.

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sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:27

cool will check tmrw if such a button exists in my car (I have a ford focus). Otherwise will ask at MOT that is in a few weeks time.

Not sure what to do in mean time if I can't disable airbag...do I risk it?

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Lulumama · 11/11/2007 22:29

don;t risk it, if there was a crash, the airbag could cause more damage to the little one than the crash...

my front passenger air bag turns off, using the key in a keyhole under the dashboard

Piffle · 11/11/2007 22:31

we have a key turn lock for the front airbag too

bosch · 11/11/2007 22:32

Almost never put any of ds's in front seat of car. Ds1 hated being in the back and was a real motion sensor (cried at traffic lights, traffic jams etc) but it's much safer in back than front, I've always believed.

Never never never put baby or child in front seat with a functioning airbag, do not risk it. Five minutes crying vs well, I don't want to type it.

edam · 11/11/2007 22:33

I'm with lulu, airbags explode in an accident - the force of the explosion is OK if you are an adult but could be very serious indeed for a baby.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:34

Can't find how to do it in the ford focus manual.

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expatinscotland · 11/11/2007 22:34

we'll have to once this third child is born, because our car is a Vauxhall Astra and doesn't fit three car seats in back and we cannot afford another car.

But it has no airbag.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:36

bosch you wouldn't put child in front even with no air bag?

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bosch · 11/11/2007 22:38

Just done quick search - it's actually illegal to put rear facing seat in front seat with functioning air bag - perhaps because it's so risky.

Isawbumperkissingsantaclaus · 11/11/2007 22:38

Yeah, my car isn't posh enough for any air bags either !

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:39

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A FORD FOCUS??????

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Spidermama · 11/11/2007 22:40

My friend sent this email to me today which I think has been doing the rounds for a while ...

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Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking .

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a van - loose - was always great fun.

We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle.

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We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because......

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We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

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Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out any eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!

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HOW TO
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bosch · 11/11/2007 22:40

No - I guess I take risks that other people wouldn't, but it's just something I've always thought wasn't safe...

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:41

Thanks bosch that's very helpful. So it looks like ds will be in the back until I can work out how to disable the bloody airbag. If anyone knows how to do it on the ford focus before tmrw morning I would be very grateful

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Spidermama · 11/11/2007 22:42

Yes I would risk it, in other words.

I think people all to often put their safety paranoias ahead of day to day comfort which is completely ignored. The risk perception is all skewed and people seem to live their lives in constant readiness for the worst case scenario. Total madness.

Today I was looking after three children for a friend of mine and yet my friend didn't feel able to pick up my dd from another friends house on route to me even though she was driving right past. Why? Because she didn't think my tall, nine year old dd should sit in the front with an airbag for the half mile drive.

Utter, utter lunacy. Annoying too.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:44

nice sentiment spidermama but with those kind of e-mails I also think things were different because people didn't know any better. Anyway it kind of changes the issue if it is illegal.

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bosch · 11/11/2007 22:45

Spidermama - I too used to travel in the boot of a hatchback when all my brothers and sisters were back from college and there wasn't room for me in seat with (or without) a seatbelt, and I'm still here, so that proves your point I guess.

Except, when I was a college, one of my friends sat in the back of hatchback for a lift home, and at 40mph the boot sprang open, he fell out and died. But he's not here to tell you that...

Olihan · 11/11/2007 22:46

You can't disable Ford focus airbags yourself, they don't have on/off switches and Ford garages will not disable them as it invalidates your insurance if an adult is in the front seat. That's what our Ford garage told us, anyway, when we asked.

If you have got an airbag you can not put your baby in the front seat anymore. If you have an accident your baby will be crushed against the seat back.

Even if she's in a forward facing seat she needs to be in the back because the airbag going off in her face could kill her. There have been instances of chldren and even adults being killed by airbags going off.

I know the screaming is awful, my ds2 was the same bu it's not worth the risk to have her in the front, it really isn't.

Spidermama · 11/11/2007 22:49

I think we're all too risk aware is all I'm saying. There's no point in going through life as if you're living the worst case scenario all the time. It's too inhibiting. I want to go through life living rather than concentrating on avoiding death. There's a bit difference.

sheepgirl · 11/11/2007 22:49

olihan - thanks I can stop trying to find it in the manual. Oh well it is only 5 mins I guess...lets see how we go tmrw.

Thanks everyone for your help.

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