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I don't blame you if you think, oh no not you again, I am sick of me too.

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NAB3littlemonkeys · 08/11/2007 18:55

Older 2 in their rooms since 5.30 and are now in bed for the night. Said something awful to my son (that he was spiteful) what he did wa mean but no excuse for me. I am meant to be the grown up.
DS1's behaviour is unacceptable at times (and I don't think I am expecting too much all the time) but how do we get him to stop? Doing the marbles (and I am not removing them for bad behaviour as trying hard to always reward) but this morning I was that close to taking all of them away and he would have said he wasn't bothered.

Yesterday I asked him not to say/do something and he immediately did it again. 3 times!

DH and I are stuck. We have no idea how to deal with it and clearly don't have the fist clue about kids and how to deal with them.

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haychee · 08/11/2007 19:04

I find it hard not to react badly (childishly) to their behaviour sometimes. I get sucked in and react in a way that i know will not do them any good, and in a way i know would be generally disapproved of here on mn.

I try my best, thats all i can do.

It all you can do.

I find, mine are getting easier now they are older (7&4).
But when im stressed or in a bad mod for some reason (maybe row/disagreement with dp or something) i cant control myself well.

You are not alone!

None of us know what we are doing, thats why were all here. Dont let any of them kid you that they do, cos they wouldnt be here if they did.

BUY "123 MAGIC" ITS BRILL!!!
Discipline methods and coping methods. Is very very good. Worked for me!

Will try to find a link.

haychee · 08/11/2007 19:06

here

Doodledootoo · 08/11/2007 19:08

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haychee · 08/11/2007 19:12

Its very american, but seriously it does work, if your consistent - youll have em sorted within 2 weeks or ill eat my hat!

I dont go in for parenting books, at all. But i was really struggling a while back and i cant remember where i got the recommendation from, health visitor i think.

Its quite a short book, light reading really, so easy to digest.

Can i big it up anymore??

NAB3littlemonkeys · 08/11/2007 20:22

I have that book. Maybe an idea if I read it! Thanks.

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haychee · 08/11/2007 21:07

I was even considering posting it to you!
You MUST read it, you and dp!

Im so glad youve got it.
Let me know how it goes.
Am soo excited, and desperate to know.

Doodledootoo · 08/11/2007 22:46

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NAB3littlemonkeys · 09/11/2007 07:55

I skimmed the book last night but I do need to sit down and read it properly.

Our new policy today is to start afresh. Say nothing to DS1 about yesterday's behaviour and ignore all bad stuff. I said his name once (old habits die hard) and he has been okay. I think they feed off us and once we have started with the telling off and raised voices it just goes to pot.

What we are not sure on is when DS1 winds up DD we will ignore him but what do we say to DD when she is whining, he hurt me, he did this, etc etc?

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haychee · 09/11/2007 08:29

Dont allow him to wind her up in the first place, then you wont have to deal with her whining. Id whine too if my older brother was picking on me.

I think your right ignoring bad behaviour does go a long way but sometimes some bad behaviours cant be totally ignored, like with your dd being annoyed like that.

Give him 3 clear chances, then its time out (or any other type of punishment that has an effect, taking away tv time, or playing out or whatever it is they like to do).
Keep doing it, no shouting, no ordeal. Even if you do it 1000 times in an hour, he will get the message say after a week, that he only has three chances to sort out his bad behaviour or its bed/stairs etc or wherever you like to put him or whatever punishment you choose.
The book tells you how to do this much better than i can - but the jist of it is keep calm, repeatedly count his three chances until he knows that three means business. Dont allow yourself to get cross, keep calm, count him to the 3 then put him out somewhere or whatever, but enforce punishement at three with no shouting from you.
Your daughter will appreciate, you will feel calmer and he will eventually get the idea of it.
I PROMISE.

You must be consistent and stick with it for at least a coulple of weeks. Both you and dp.

When i started this, i was counting to 3 with dd1 continuously for the first week or so, nowadays, i just have to hold up one finger, then two, then she knows not to go any further.
Sometimes she does push it all the way still, but far far less frequent.

Its such a shame, that she will push it to two, maybe as time passes she will drop it at one. There is always hope i spose.

Its really the back chat that i struggle with these days. I mean she does wind up dd2 but she knows she has to stop when i start counting.
But the back chat is very anger provoking for me.
For some reason, kids just want to push you to the edge just to see how far they can go i think. Mine do anyway.

Buda · 09/11/2007 08:38

Teh 123 book is great. Someone on hear recommended it to me and I find the 123 bit just calms me down! I tend to blow up first and count the bodies later but when I remember the 123 strategy I can deal with DS much more calmly.

(Although one time (Xmas 2 years ago - DS was 4) I got to 2 and he hit me, said "that's 3" and took himself off to the stairs! I did think that maybe it wasn't working whilst trying not to laugh but it was a one-off!)

haychee · 09/11/2007 09:43

My dd2 (4 also) counts me! If i wont do what she demands, she gets to 3 and laughs. Little monkey.

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haychee · 09/11/2007 09:50

It doesnt get that bad tbh.

By counting your waiting and therefore controlling your anger.
Once they get to three, usually quite quickly, they are sent to their room and you can breathe.

I find i dont get no where near as angry as i used to. Sometimes i do, but not like 50 times a day like previously.

Its not a miriacle cure but my god it helps.

Buda · 09/11/2007 09:55

I don't know Doodle - I am a red mist person totally and really didn't think anything would stop that as I shout first and think later but it really seems to help. Must re-read the book as we have had a few relapses on my part recently.

haychee · 09/11/2007 09:58

Yes ive relapsed too a few times.

Like i say its the rudeness of dd1, the back chat, it really gets my back up, i just want to swing round and knock her for six. But ive been there and done that and i KNOW it doesnt help, it just makes her more of an angry child.
I used to get walloped as a child and ive turned out alright, and id never speak to mu mum the way dd1 speaks to me. But its not the way to go, to hit, im certain of that.

Must keep calm and show her im in control.

Doodledootoo · 09/11/2007 10:08

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smartiejake · 09/11/2007 10:28

Agree- 123 magic is FAB. WHat it really does is helps you to keep calm.This helps ddcs to keep calm and the stressy shouting and frayed tempers diminishes.

NAB3littlemonkeys · 09/11/2007 11:03

Ds1 counts too, or repeats me. usually with a smirk on his face which makes me want to wallop him. Good job for him I don't hit.

If it wasn't for him picking on his sister in a million different ways he would be fine to deal with. He so wanted a sister too.

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