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Should I give my daughter her crazy dads surname

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cresida · 19/02/2021 06:17

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So I had a new partner and I got pregnant pretty soon after we got together. I'd known him for years as we once worked on a project together back in 2014. We tried to date before but I had other life things going on. We stayed in touch and during lockdown we began a relationship. He was excited about the pregnancy to begin with as this was his first child. After a few weeks he started to distance himself and things got awkward. I think he has his friends warning him against going all in with the family plan he'd proposed in the beginning because they've had bad experiences. Within 6 weeks of me finding out we were broken up.

We had quite a big altercation, I wish I could explain what happened on here but it's too specific and if he ever stumbled across this he would know this is about him, but long story short his behaviour was craaaaazy that day.
I sent him updates about the baby at his families request throughout pregnancy which he ignored.
My 7yr old son and I (different father) ended up being HOMELESS because he convinced me to give notice on my beautiful apartment and then before the breakup he backed out of our plan to move in together. My landlord refused to cancel my notice and due to being so sick during the whole pregnancy I had to shut my business down.
Throughout my pregnancy his family knew I was in hospital for a lot of it. He NEVER checked on me or the baby from 9 weeks (when we broke up)

The day I went into labour I called him and told him I was in labour. I had to convince him to
Come. He came and was excellent. I was determined to put all the issues to the side and ignore the fact that he hadn't been here, hadn't done anything he said he's do and had been spreading rumors about me to make himself sound better after the breakup.

When the baby was born he was great the first 24 hours. I chose the baby's name a few months before she was born. Let's say her name is Lily Rose Andrews, (middle name after my mother). He didn't say anything initially but within a week he started to say he didn't like the name and he wants her to have his surname. Let's pretend it's Frenelucia (it's an equally odd and hard to pronounce name). I was annoyed at this but I compromised and agreed to double barrel and let him also come up with another middle name. He also wanted to change babies FIRST name to Margaret.
He didn't like this idea and argued with me saying I wasn't compromising.

The day after the argument he said he wanted a DNA test because I've refused to compromise??? There had never been a question of paternity. He also said he didn't want to talk until that was done. I was fine with that because it meant peace. He then went on to send my family and I a slew of messages, harassing us.
When I went to the DNA centre, he had told them the baby's name is Margaret Frenelucia😒😒
I corrected them and told them her actual name.
So just to recap, he hadn't been around during the pregnancy, he hasn't contributed anything financially aside from a pack of vests. Lily is 2 months old and he's seen her once since birth.
I now don't want him on the birth certificate because of his unpredictable behaviour or to give her a double barrel name.

Please tell me what you think

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GaraMedouar · 19/02/2021 08:12

Definitely your surname. In some cases I might say double-barrelled if there is argument over surnames - but in your case here definitely only use your surname. Flowers

StillGoingToWork · 19/02/2021 08:14

Give her the name you want. You are not in a stable relationship with her dad and he doesn't have automatic naming rights. I do think you should put his name on the BC so if he does fuck off for good and she wants to trace him as an adult she has a start.

WaltzingBetty · 19/02/2021 08:27

@NearlyTheHolidays2

Personally I wouldn't give baby a partner's surname unless you're married or in an (extremely) stable relationship. I would however put his name on the birth certificate for your daughter's peace of mind when she's older. It's her family history after all.
It's not just about that though. Putting him on the birth certificate gives him automatic parental rights.

Without it he needs to apply based on the DNA

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RainingBatsAndFrogs · 19/02/2021 08:48

Don’t double barrel.

Once a child’s name is in the birth certificate you cannot change it without permission from all with PR.

And he could get PR through the court if he fought for it.

I would not leave any opportunity for a controlling and unpredictable man to have control over you or your DD’s life.

What will you do about child maintenance?

Cresida · 19/02/2021 09:07

@RainingBatsAndFrogs
I'll definitely make a claim. I'm moving to London next weekend. Once I do I'll claim. I just don't want to do it while he knows where I live.

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AnnLouiseB · 19/02/2021 09:11

Your name, and don’t put him on the BC. Anything else would be madness.

bluebluezoo · 19/02/2021 09:15

If she’s 2 months old isn’t the birth cert all done already? I thought you had to do it within 40
Days of the birth?

Or has lockdown meant you have extra time?

AnotherCovidQuestion · 19/02/2021 09:16

Whatever you do, DON'T use his name. And don't believe a word he says either.

If you use his name you can NEVER decide to change it back again. This is the ONLY time it is legally 100% up to you.

bluebluezoo · 19/02/2021 09:18

Oh and I’d put him on the BC as if you don’t I think you need a DNA test to show he is the father before you can claim CM.

If he is on it then he has to compel you to provide a DNA test and prove he isn’t the father.

Down side is he will have PR if on it. So you’d have to choose between money and him having a legal say in her life....

AnotherCovidQuestion · 19/02/2021 09:22

OP, if you don't want him around, then why would you choose to put his name on the birth certificate so he has parental rights and can take her away from you 50% of her life?

Just don't!

Cresida · 19/02/2021 11:03

@bluebluezoo because of Covid the earliest appointment was April

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CattyCactus · 19/02/2021 11:04

@lunar1

No, give her the name you want, not double barrel and don't put him on the BC! He sounds awful.
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Littlepaws18 · 19/02/2021 14:01

Do not under any circumstances give her his name. In the future you can change it easily if you decide, however if you keep it as his name he has to agree to change it and I guarantee he won't. My daughter hates her surname so much (her fathers who she never sees) she says she doesn't have one. I can't change it because he won't agree. So we are stuck with it until she's 16 when she can choose. This gas massive implications at school- who have been so understanding and refer to her as my maiden name. As for birth certificate, again be careful if he's going to be in her life sure it's right he should be on there, but if not- it's going to cause you a lot of grief.

BigWindow · 19/02/2021 14:05

Agree with others. Make her yourself, don’t put him on the birth certificate.

You’re not stopping him from doing anything. He can step up and be a good father. That’s his choice.

BigWindow · 19/02/2021 14:06

name her yourself!

Micah · 19/02/2021 14:27

Can you claim Cm if he isnt on the BC?

Surely if he pays CM he will be granted PR?

Can you have both? Cm and no PR?

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 19/02/2021 15:21

@Micah

Can you claim Cm if he isnt on the BC?

Surely if he pays CM he will be granted PR?

Can you have both? Cm and no PR?

Yes Not necessarily - but he will if he tries to get it because of the DNA not because of the CM. Yes.
Ismellphantoms · 19/02/2021 15:32

I really regret giving my DC the father's name. DD wanted it changed on the 16th birthday, it was, but it was a long wait

Mintjulia · 19/02/2021 15:45

He hasn't earned the right to have a say. So your choice of name and don't put him on the BC. Obviously he can apply to be added, but that would at least show he is willing to make some kind of effort, because up until now, he sounds woefully lacking.

CodenameVillanelle · 19/02/2021 15:49

I can't imagine what would induce you to think she should have his surname or any name he chose.

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