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Teenagers mental health

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ostrichlover · 05/02/2021 23:09

I really want to respect DD’s privacy but equally I’d appreciate some help or advice in this situation. I feel I’m in over my head, and as a single parent I can’t really consult anyone about it. DD15 has been slipping in school when she usually is very motivated to do well, and keeps getting upset saying she doesn’t want to be a failure and just wants to make me proud, but it feels impossible for her to motivate herself. She also often says some things which are quite upsetting, which she usually deflects from afterwards and brushes off as her ‘being dramatic’. She’s not the best at opening up shall we say. I’m guilty of thinking the same about her being dramatic as she usually seems fine but I’m beginning to worry and feel I’m failing her as a parent. She just seems so down sometimes, and says such drastic things, yet other times she seems happy. She’s told me that she has to pretend to enjoy things so that she doesn’t lose her friends etc, it’s quite upsetting to hear.
I really do worry about her sometimes- am I wrong to think it’s just typical mood swings? I know sometimes it’s harder to notice things when you’re so close to someone. Anyone’s child the same?
Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.

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Startoftheyear2021 · 05/02/2021 23:33

Hi my DD sounds similar. Very up and down. It's tough isn't it? I've sourced some counselling for her which calms me as I hope having someone experienced to talk to will help her. And I try to avoid being judgemental and tell her I love her and I'm here for her.
I'm also a single parent. Good luck 💐

ostrichlover · 05/02/2021 23:49

@Startoftheyear2021
Thank you for the reply. Mine says she wants to speak to the gp to see if they can help her but I don’t think it’s really worth a 6 month camhs waiting list to see someone who might not even be any good. Perhaps I’m just being cynical because I have bad experience with counselling. If you don’t mind me asking is the counselling through the NHS or did you seek it privately and do you think it’s helping at all? I’ve suggested finding a private therapist as I think it may be more effective but she says it’s just a waste of money we don’t have. I just don’t know what do for the best- it’s so hard. Best of luck to you and I hope the counselling helps!

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LimitIsUp · 06/02/2021 00:04

My dd (18) is on her third private counsellor. This one is practising CBT - thank fuck. I feel that at long last she might actually come away with useful strategies to manage her own mental health. Much better than all that 'listening' with the previous counsellors. So, my advice is get her CBT

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ostrichlover · 06/02/2021 14:17

@LimitIsUp thank you for the advice, I’ll definitely look into it!

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WonkyKayak · 23/03/2022 12:49

Hello, is anyone else out there struggling with their A Level sons/daughters? Mine (I'll call him PB) is having a full on mental health crisis, refusing to go to school, not getting up, playing computer games until the wee small hours. We've booked PB into counselling and sorted out some private tuition but it's not worked - the A Levels have now been shelved. Very hard to know how best to approach this: it feels like a balance between trying to help him build some kind of resilience, which you can only do by going through tough times, and accepting that he finds just about anything that occurs outside of the safety of his room almost impossible to face, particularly if it's school-related. Any advice would be very gratefully received.

DaffTheDoggo · 23/03/2022 15:25

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-son-has-given-up-on-school-and-i-cant-get-through-to-him-08sw5ndmn

Tanya Byron gave someone some good advice on a very similar scenario here, @WonkyKayak. Happy to c&p if you can't access it.

WonkyKayak · 23/03/2022 15:39

That would be great, I don't subscribe so paywall is active!

DaffTheDoggo · 23/03/2022 15:41

No problem- this was the question-

Q My son is in his final year of school. I have come to realise, in hindsight, that sending him to a super-competitive and academic school was the wrong thing to do. But this is not why I am writing to ask for your help.

He has withdrawn from everything, except watching sport and rubbish on his computer, and spends all his time in his room. I had relented and bought him an Xbox in the first week of lockdown. When this school year started, he refused to sit his exam retakes. He had done little to no work for them during the summer and had been urged by his teachers to “work his socks off” to catch up.

Since then he complains almost every school day of feeling sick to his stomach and refuses to go in. He has missed a great deal of school because of this. In the previous school year, before the lockdowns, my son occasionally complained during a school day of nausea and — worried after a series of such bouts of sickness — I took him to a gastroenterologist, who found him to be fine.

He now flat-out refuses to go anywhere near the school. The school is trying to help, urging him to seek counselling. He has so far had half an hour of this online. He says that he doesn’t want to study or go to university, but neither does he want to work, he just wants to do nothing. Very occasionally he says something different. Then back to total refusal. He is also withdrawing from his music lessons, which are only half an hour a week, and cannot be bothered, although he is quite talented.

I am on his case all the time: I nag and ask questions, text him words of encouragement — cajoling and praising him — although I do sometimes get very upset with him. His reaction is: leave me alone, get out of my room, and various unprintables. His father and I are still living together but there is no love left and there are a lot of ugly fights, most of them about our son. I am ashamed to say that our boy has witnessed most of them. What should we do?
Jocelyn

DaffTheDoggo · 23/03/2022 15:42

This was the answer-

A It is not unusual for teenagers to be up and down with their moods and behaviour, and the impact of the pandemic on young people — their social and educational lives — has been very challenging, but what you describe in your son seems to be greater than could be explained by those factors alone. Indeed, I am concerned that your son is showing signs of depression that has developed after a longer time struggling with anxiety. Therefore, my clinical instinct is that he may have mental health issues and so require specialist assessment and support.

The reason for my directness is that it seems to be clear that after anxiety presenting over recent years as stomach aches and nausea, which was probably related to school — and, indeed, enabled him to avoid school at times — he is now showing significantly withdrawn behaviour that feels more like a clinical depression. My hypothesis is that if he has struggled with school-related anxiety (perhaps because the academic ethos of the school was not right for him to enjoy learning) and then had significant disruption to his education owing to the pandemic, it may have all come to a head now. With needing to catch up and his A-level exams approaching, he is so overwhelmed that he has disengaged and is school-refusing (see youngminds.org.uk).

The disengagement you describe feels like a depression: his normal and developmentally appropriate functioning is consistently reduced; he is isolated and withdrawn from friends, school and family; and he is dropping other activities, such as his music. This is concerning, particularly if you are struggling to engage with him. He may have a serious mental health problem and therefore requires immediate professional intervention. Speak to your GP and also see www.nhs.uk/mental-health.

You clearly feel frustrated and so alternate between a good-and-bad-cop parental approach (encourage and praise/nag and get upset), but this is unlikely to help. Being “on his case all the time” will increase anxiety and low mood. Furthermore, if there is marital discord that he witnesses — particularly if he hears that the “ugly fights” are about him — this will entrench his feelings of unhappiness and despair, and also perhaps engender a sense of guilt for the unhappiness of his parents.

To help you to understand this further, let’s start with the anxiety that he struggled with before the pandemic, which seems to be related to school. The stomach and intestine have their own nervous system — the enteric nervous system — so there is a connection between gut and brain. Therefore stress and abdominal pain are often related, and it is well documented that children and teenagers with school and learning-related anxiety will complain of stomach aches. Such children will often be referred to clinical psychologists by paediatric gastroenterologists who have investigated abdominal pain but found no physiological cause.

I wonder whether your son has seriously struggled with school — the upswing in academic pressure when he transitioned from GCSEs to A-levels seems to correlate with an increase in abdominal pain and an associated increase in school-refusal. That academic leap in learning is the greatest of all educational transitions (greater even than from A-level to university learning) because it needs a significant shift in learning style, requiring greater independent learning.

For children who show a sudden increase in school-related anxiety, a disengagement in learning, perhaps a sudden drop in performance and grades, the question has to be: why? With your son I would want to think about how he learns, whether the learning expectations are ones he struggles to cope with and whether, despite his intelligence, he might have any learning needs that relate to executive function difficulties.

Executive function is a set of mental skills that are essential for us to learn, work and manage everyday life, such as working memory, flexible thinking, planning, organisation, task management and self-control — the management system of the brain. Executive function difficulties can be masked by bright children, especially when their stage of education is more structured and directed. However, such difficulties will reveal themselves when independent learning requirements increase, which puts greater pressure on executive function.

As education becomes more challenging, focus and concentration are compromised, and organisation and task initiation are poor. This can be emotionally challenging and many children will withdraw from learning as they become overwhelmed and feel that they are failing. There may be other reasons behind the anxiety that your son has experienced, but they need to be fully understood and a cognitive assessment with a clinical psychologist would enable this (see bps.org.uk/lists/SRCN).

Therefore, while it is imperative that your son’s present mood and function are assessed for depression and he is treated for this via psychological therapy and perhaps medication, the underlying issues also need to be understood to enable him to understand himself better and get support to achieve his full potential. Depression symptoms won’t get better on their own, and if untreated can get worse or lead to other difficulties.

I also recommend that you and your husband find support to address the causes of your conflict so that the home environment does not exacerbate your son’s difficulties (see relate.org.uk). I wish you all well.

WonkyKayak · 23/03/2022 15:57

Thanks so much. This is super usefu!

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