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Parental responsibility

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MyLifeWTF · 15/11/2020 14:42

This might be a long one....

I have an 8yr old with my ex, a few years back I moved into a refuge to escape his abuse, over the years he had made somewhat of an effort and I started to see positive changes that stuck for about a year and a half, we became amicable and I would even go so far as saying friends. Over this time we had spoke about getting together and in a moment of madness (or still under coercion, even though I am not using this as an excuse for my mistake) we got back together and of course the change didnt stick.

He cheated on me and got someone else pregnant as well as all the controlling side of him returning (no physical abuse this time) and I think that clouded my judgement.

I ended it and this time it wasnt so hard because I had been gaining my strength and recognising all the patterns, so there was no concern of me going back. This was last year and still have no desire to return despite all his best efforts to get back together.

He has taken this as I am the controlling one now as i am putting a stop to everything. Anyway his life has unfortunately gone a bit down hill, he lost his driving license, is in and out of temp jobs and lives in a rehabilitation centre (to my knowledge I have never known him to take drugs except weed so this was a bit of a shock to me) we still kept minimal contact so that he could see our son etc. Although he was never consistent and I had to send him an email explaining to him that he needs to call our son more often if he cant see him as I am trying to keep that relationship with his dad open

Fast forward to a few weeks ago, it all sort of came to head because I wouldnt let him stay over when he had no place to sleep, I'm sorry this may be unreasonable but I've posted before and the advice was clear that I shouldn't have to allow him in my home if i wasnt comfortable with it and although we had a pretty amicable relationship I was not comfortable because he is always so negative and causes arguement and out stays his welcome.

I'd had enough and said he needs to keep contact and communication strictly about our son. He didn't like this and has caused a massive uproar (I think he still wants that complete access to me, I am under no illusion this is about our son at all) now my son has started to speak about this at school because it is affecting him, fair enough.

I had the conversation with his dad that this needs to stop because it's a toxic situation for DS. Well he went off on one and saying things like I was controlling and making a wedge between them both. Not once have I ever.

I spoke with the school for support and they suggested early intervention. I am happy to cooperate and get the best outcome with them. Now DS dad knows this he has been emailing me all sorts of abuse. He asked to see DS today as it's his birthday. Fine. However he said he was taking him to stay over at his. Not fine. I explained that under no circumstances is my son staying in one room in a rehab house but he could pick him up and spend the day with him and bring him home. No he didnt want to do this, I have said that he cant do weeks days because DS has school and I dont want the routine changed on random days he decides he wants him.

He then called DS and said he had this really fun day planned but mummy had said no but not to worry because he will pick him up from school tomorrow when mums at work. I have to admit i snapped because i have clearly said no to both things but because he cant get away with one he tries another and now he is making me look unreasonable. So I emailed him outlining the reasons why this cant happen but that he is more than welcome to pick him up today spend the day with him and do the same next weekend, he replied saying that I am controlling and that I should just fuck off a die.

He is never consistent and he shows up whenever he feels like it, makes no plans for arrangements and just gets away with it.

So I have told the school that he is not allowed to pick him up but here is where I am stuck because he has parental responsibility as he is on the birth certificate. I do not want my son to be around him because he is so toxic but I have tried and tried to keep the relationship going between them despite this because he has half responsibility so there isn't much I can do anyway, I'm now at my wits end!

Every person whether it be friend, family, teacher, social worker has said that he is no good and I should keep DS away from him but how?! And is it really the right thing to do?

He has an ongoing court case because he got caught selling class A drugs (not when I was with him) he has a suspended sentence, lives in a rehab place, smokes weed, is abusive and controlling, is under probation....I could go on, I wasnt joking when I said his life started to fall apart.

What do I do? I've tried my best to do the right thing but obviously it's not been right. I dont want my son around him at all but i know i have to accept that if he has rights then i will need to let him, I'm not one of those mums that takes the kid away because we are not together but I'm starting to feel like i should be like that.

Sorry it's long and i know I'll get flamed for some of the things I've said and that's fine but I just need a resolution for what's in the best interests of DS.

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Ohalrightthen · 15/11/2020 15:20

Is there a court order saying his dad has to see him X amount? If not, as far as I'm aware you can just stop letting your child see him. If your ex then wants to see him, he can apply for a court order to do so.

However, i don't think you can stop him picking him up from school. Check with them on that, and maybe SS.

FannysSteadiedBuffs · 15/11/2020 15:30

@Ohalrightthen

Is there a court order saying his dad has to see him X amount? If not, as far as I'm aware you can just stop letting your child see him. If your ex then wants to see him, he can apply for a court order to do so.

However, i don't think you can stop him picking him up from school. Check with them on that, and maybe SS.

If you have a CAO that states your child lives with you and he only has access on X day (if at all) then school can stop him taking DS.

As he has PR and there is no CAO, what's to stop him?

user1493413286 · 15/11/2020 15:43

I think if I were you then I would go to court to get a residence order so that school can then say no if he tries to come and collect your DS (although realistically I wonder if you think he would actually do that). But by going through court you’d give him the opportunity to agree a particular schedule of contact that you’re happy with and is safe; based on what you’ve said a court isn’t going to agree to him staying over and would suggest what you have said about taking him out for the day. If he doesn’t keep to the court agreed contact then you don’t need to facilitate any other contact and can limit your communication with him as arrangements are all set out and clear; if he misses it then he has to wait for the next time.
The other option is you just stop contact and tell him to take you to court but it doesn’t stop him just being able to pick your DS up from school and it plays into his narrative of you stopping him seeing your DS even though you aren’t.
Also might be worth calling the place he’s living as I strongly suspect he isn’t allowed to have children staying there.

MyLifeWTF · 15/11/2020 15:55

Thank you all for replying, just reading your comments has made it more concrete that I am doing the right thing. There is no court order but I'm worried by doing that he will get more access than the little he does now.
Interesting about the residence order though, so am I right in thinking that I will legally have sole responsibility and can stop him from collecting from school? Do I need to have a reason to apply for this and what other things is he restricted from?

I know for a fact that they dont allow children in his place and he has said before they dont come around on the weekends or check the cameras so he obviously does not have permission from them either.

I didnt want to do this but after a lot of reflection and hindsight and I mean a lot! He isn't a capable or responsible parent, when he was cheating on me I was doing night shifts and he was leaving our son alone in the house to go see her!! She told me that! So I'm not doing this to be spiteful i am genuinely concerned for my sons well being when he is alone with him (which has not happened in about a year)

Theres a lot of info to consider so thank you again.

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DrCoconut · 15/11/2020 16:18

If a social worker is involved can they not support you with making appropriate arrangements, whatever that ends up being?

MyLifeWTF · 15/11/2020 17:01

Well this is the thing, one social worker is quite supportive but the other one is very much on the side of mediation and 'believing everyone can change' I'm past that now and just want a resolution. I called the social worker on friday in tears because of my concerns and I said I want to make sure dad cant pick up ds from school and all he said to me was 'well why do you want to do that?' Even the teacher that i originally spoke to was like wtf?

I understand that they are there to try and keep contact between child and parent as safely as possible but i dont want to be told that i have facilitate him. I've had this before, i know how it ends up i just want us to move forward now.

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