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Nagging but unhelpful MIL

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DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 07:47

I wasn't really sure where to put this, but it mostly concerns my son so I will put it here.

My son is almost 8 months. He's pretty easy-going, naps and sleeps and eats well, but hasn't all been easy - I suffer from mh problems, mainly under control but obviously having a baby can make anyone depressed/anxious etc especially during the pandemic. If I'm honest, I've always been a bit weak and find it difficult to cope with life. I've done a lot of therapy, medicine, self help, I do do everything I can to mitigate my issues (exercise, good diet, meditation, let people know when I'm feeling bad etc.) But yes, I am not the strongest person and I hate that about myself.

Before we had the baby, my MIL told us she would take care of him all the time, come to our house as often as possible, do anything we wanted. I guess kind of stupidly, we took her at her word.

Since he's been born, she's been very helpful if I need someone to tell me the myriad ways I'm doing everything wrong, but not much else. (We never had a lockdown here (non UK) so no reason for her not to visit.) She never comes to our house, we always have to go to her. When we do go to her, all I hear is that the baby is too hot, the baby is too cold, the baby's nappy needs changing, the baby is hungry, that milk is too hot, that milk is too cold, you can't feed him that he's too young, his nails are too long, don't let him climb on that. The one time she came to our house, my husband had to go and pick her up and drop her off, which took almost 3 hours due to bad traffic (should really only take an hour but it was a Saturday lunchtime and the GPS said the traffic was bad, so totally predictable). I would happily have paid for a taxi, but she refused.

If she would just take him and do what she wants with him for an hour or two, I would not mind at all. I trust her to feed him properly and stuff, she is perfectly competent. But she doesn't. She just stands over me and nags. If I hand her the baby so I can have a shower or drink a cup of tea, she starts complaining about being tired after a few minutes. She isn't old - 60 or 61 and in fine health (goes swimming and to church and stuff).

Today was really the last straw for me. She started nagging me to eat more slowly. It was just too much. I told her, not in a nasty way, but bluntly, that I don't need to be told how to eat, since I am 35 years old and the reason I was eating fast was because the baby was crying.

She burst into tears and ran and hid in her room. I just can't deal with this right now. I haven't seen my parents since the pandemic started so they've never met my baby. I can't go back to the UK. None of my friends want to meet because they're paranoid about corona (me too, but I'd still be ok with meeting.) I feel lonely and a bit lost and probably still suffering from PND and I just can't spend my time worrying about her hurt feelings over nothing. Did she want me to run in there and comfort her?

My husband tells her constantly not to nag me, but she just doesn't stop. They have fought about this so many times and honestly, my husband is a relaxed kind of person but he gets so angry when she starts again.

Sometimes I just want to cut the relationship off. But we have so little family as it is and I feel so sad for my son growing up without people who love him around him. I can see she loves him so much and she is really sweet and kind to him.

I'm sorry if this is a bit jumbled, my emotions are all over the place right now.

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TorchesTorches · 23/08/2020 08:04

I am sorry that you have had this experience. I have had similar. My DH and I were made unexpectedly homeless and had to move in with my in laws. I had a baby and atoddler and was struggling and agreed to the move as we had nowhere to live and my MIL is great with kids. What in fact was that MIL gave constant "advice", but gave zero actual practical help, not even for 5 minutes.

Try to reframe it. Think of it as 'advice' and not nagging. She thinks she is being helpful. If she gives advice I would try to say 'I can see you want to be helpful. What would be really helpful I'd taking the baby or for a walk (or whatever you want). You can't get your husband to get her to stop the advice, but you can change your reaction to it abd you can think of what she can do that would be helpful to you abd keep on suggesting that.

My MIL is a nice person, but it is still a frustrating relationship (for both of us, I suspect). We have had to come to a compromise of sorts. (Helped by the fact that we no longer live together!)

TorchesTorches · 23/08/2020 08:12

Also think of advice as optional, and something you can say 'that's intersting' to abd not be committed to doing. I would also deflect stuff onto my DH 'oh DH deals with the garden, talk to him about that' etc and refuse to engage further.

DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 08:57

@TorchesTorches I do ask her to help in more practical ways but it's always "I'm so tired, oh he's so strong, oh he wants mummy."

I do recognise she's trying to be helpful but it is literally every single thing I do. And if I mention I've taken her advice (eg bought cooler clothes for him for summer), she'll turn around and find fault with those too (not thin enough, too expensive).

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ciaralily · 23/08/2020 09:06

Could you just see her less often? No wonder this is grating you. It's good to hear at least your DH and you are on the same page. Could he have a word with her, so you don't have to deal with it on top of everything else.

DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 09:08

@ciaralily we really don't see them often - once every two weeks maybe?

I said in my OP that my husband has spoken to her many times - gently, angrily and everything in between and no change.

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ciaralily · 23/08/2020 09:11

I think once every two weeks is a lot actually! And if you do tell her how difficult it is for her and she still can't do better, to me it's perfectly reasonable to reduce the regularity of visits. Or tell her exactly in what form it would work for you, say she comes to yours but her and DH go out with baby while you rest. You and your well-being matter too OP!

ciaralily · 23/08/2020 09:11

for you*

Sayitagainwhydontyou · 23/08/2020 09:12

Sounds like trips to see Nana are now something your DH and DS do without you! Congratulations, you now have an afternoon to yourself every few weeks.

DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 09:13

@ciaralily a lot is relative though isn't it? My husband and his parents are really close so they like spending time together.

As I said, when she is asked to take care of the baby she says it is tiring. Plus she is terrified of coronavirus so she won't go out.

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DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 09:14

and besides that, no one else wants to meet right now so at times I'm desperate for company. But as soon as we meet, it's just nag nag nag

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nasiisthebest · 23/08/2020 09:15

Give it a miss a couple of times till she really misses tge baby and then tell her you'll only come if she keeps her advice to herself.

It's a choice to open her mouth, she can also choose to shut it. When you do come over, have a plan that by the first nag/advice you said you're not accepting it and leave straight away. If it's within minutes of arriving, still leave and go take a relaxing stroll somewhere before you drive back again. She'll soon learn. Ignore any tears, that's just manipulation.

IdblowJonSnow · 23/08/2020 09:19

Just stop seeing her so much. It's that simple.
It's about her not you by the sounds of it. But honestly, how annoying. Amazed you've tolerated it for this long.
Your child will soon be soaking all of this up, he doesnt need yo be around this negativity and neither do you!

DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 09:50

@nasiisthebest

I think that might work but I really wonder if my husband would be able to go through with it. I would. I am just so over this, I was on the verge of tears all day with our last visit.

@IdblowJonSnow

Maybe I'll just send my husband and baby over next time. I still get anxious being apart from him but I can't take much more of it.

You're right that he's going to start noticing. I don't want him to think it's ok for me to be bullied all the time.

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user1493413286 · 23/08/2020 10:31

If you’d feel comfortable I’d send your husband with the baby and perhaps go alternate times so you’re only seeing her once a month. It would then give you that time to yourself which may help you in other ways; it’s always hard at first being away from your baby but there are huge benefits of just being able to watch a tv show with a cup of tea uninterrupted or take a nap.

Makegoodchoices · 23/08/2020 10:40

You answering back consistently appears to be what’s needed here. She’s tuned her son out but was affected by you biting back. She may have been dramatic but it did stop the nagging that day.
I’m not sure if she wanted an apology but if you haven’t been rude, there is no need.

I used to have to be very loudly sarcastic to my DM when she said things like “you will put a coat on him when you go out, won’t you?”. Once when I’d had enough I did say “ it appears that you can’t stop talking to me as if I’m a moron trying to damage my child, can you stop?” It improved things considerably.

DancingCatGif · 23/08/2020 14:29

@Makegoodchoices

I definitely wasn't rude and no intention of apologising.

I do sometimes feel like asking if she thinks I'm an idiot when she tells me to cool down the baby's milk like I haven't been doing that multiple times a day for the best part of a year.

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GreyPanther · 23/08/2020 19:19

I’m sorry you are in this situation OP, it’s just the worst.
I was in a very similar situation with my DS when he was born. My in laws would be round every week when I was on my own as DH was at work and my MIL was (and still is) difficult to deal with.

My solution to all of this is to leave the house just before they come over and have time to myself. Or send DH and DS off to theirs. Absolute bliss! I was nervous about it at first as I didn’t know whether DH could handle it but then I reminded myself that he was DS father and there was no reason for him not to. It’s worked out very well for me Grin

Also, every time my MIL has “advice”/nagging/negative comments, I just point blank ignore her now. I barely engage with her. It’s not great but it’s the only way I can protect myself from her behaviour. Good luck, hope it works out!

DancingCatGif · 24/08/2020 02:31

@GreyPanther

I have no problem with my husband looking after the baby alone, he does it all the time. But when I'm out, I get anxious, just from not being able to see the baby. Not because I think my husband can't deal with it.

I don't feel comfortable being out right now because of the coronavirus situation.

I honestly think I'm going to have to start blanking her. It really sucks, because I tried hard to have a good relationship with her but she just pushes me way too far.

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WitchenKitch · 24/08/2020 02:36

Don't go to see her. Let your husband take the baby to them every couple of weeks and you have some me-time.

When you are a bit fragile (I am a "cracked vessel" too) you need to make a list of Things I Can't Be Doing With.
Start yours, and put "visiting MIL" at the very top.

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DancingCatGif · 24/08/2020 06:04

@WitchenKitch

I would scale back the visits but due to coronavirus we barely see anyone as it is. It's so hard to feel so isolated, and it's so hard to see her. Every time we visit, I swear I am never going there again, then two weeks pass and I'm desperate to see anyone I can.

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FredaFrogspawn · 24/08/2020 06:11

Can’t you begin to meet friends outside at the park now where you are?

DancingCatGif · 24/08/2020 06:31

@FredaFrogspawn

I said in my OP that I'd be fine with that but my friends aren't

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FredaFrogspawn · 24/08/2020 06:35

Sorry - I should have read more carefully. That’s a shame. I can understand your feelings of isolation. Even if you had one other person you could connect with, it might help you resist going back for more.

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