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Has anybody watched bringing up baby????

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sheepgirl · 30/09/2007 22:17

What a fascinating series!

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Susianna · 01/10/2007 07:25

hee hee

take it you have missed all the hoo ha on here last week then?

Elibean · 01/10/2007 09:51

Fascinating

Not my word for some of it

sheepgirl · 01/10/2007 11:01

oh yeah sorry i missed out on the discussion...must have had my head in the sand again So what did I miss????

I never thought before what style I adopted until I saw the program and I started off by laughing at the 70's style (the 50's was just too scary and I actually had to watch those bits behind a cushion) until I realised I had actually done some of that stuff. Although it seems I was prodominately led by 60's style.

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GTE · 09/10/2007 04:46

Arrgh I heard about it... bringing up baby

Perhaps it is because I am living in a country where thousands of children are receiving this same treatment in orphanages, or perhaps it is because I have a tiny baby of my own right now, but I cannot get this out of my head. Every time I look at her (in our bed at night where she sleeps, or during one of the 10 or so feeds she currently gets in 24 hours), I think of the baby who came out of the womb and straight onto an experimental TV programme, to be subjected to entirely unnatural and cruel parental neglect. Treating a child in this way is tantamount to abuse. They may as well be in an orphanage. It would be cheaper too.

Untold damage

I also feel for the parents ? one day they will surely regret the choice they have made. Maybe tomorrow, if they decided to read up on the wealth of scientific evidence that shows how damaging this ?parenting? method actually is.

Research, easily and clearly explained in Sue Gerdhart?s Why Love Matters; Margot Sunderland?s The Science of Parenting, and others, shows how the stress of prolonged abandonment can cause babies to suffer permanent damage to the brain cells. Neglecting to meet a baby?s emotional needs (e.g. eye contact and constant touch), and physiological needs (e.g. feeding and sleeping on demand), causes distress and trauma. This results in emotional and behavioural disorders, such as stress, lack of confidence, depression, addiction and anorexia, in both childhood and adult life. Given all this, and bearing in mind that half of Britain lives in fear of a whole generation of dysfunctional teenagers, I question why this sort of TV is allowed and whether this kind of advice should be sanctioned.

The thing that worries me the most, is that, if this baby does start to fall asleep on its own and sleep through the night, people will mistake this for a happy child responding to successful parenting (though given that they're only filming until 3 months we'll never really know anyway). The reality, however, is that babies who are deprived of love and whose needs are ignored, often become compliant and submissive. What?s the point of expressing their needs if no one is listening?

I find myself almost hoping that this child will respond in another way, also common. Children who never learn to express their needs appropriately can be unreasonably demanding and have frequent tantrums. This might put viewers off. Then again, tantrums, if not handled correctly (give lots of love and holding to help the child deal with their overwhelming emotions), can cause further trauma. So I must not wish for this either, as the poor child is even less likely to ever receive the small thing it is asking for: that its parents actively love him.

So my last hope is with the other mentors on the programme, who advocate attachment and child-led parenting. Though I can?t help feeling that they are likely to be portrayed as fluffy hippies who breastfeed their school-age children. It all makes good TV right?

Egypt · 09/10/2007 04:50

do a search sheepgirl. mumsnet are up in arms over the verity monster woman and have bombarded channel4 with complaints, along with signing petition to PM and quoting some pretty scary psychological research on the harm that ignoring a baby for so long can do.............beware!

Theclosetpagan · 09/10/2007 07:42

Excellent post GTE.

belgo · 09/10/2007 07:57

good post GTE. Which country do you live in?

theUrbanDryad · 09/10/2007 08:26

GTE - copy and paste that post with Dear Ofcom at the top and send it to Ofcom Excellent points made there, very eloquent.

GTE · 09/10/2007 11:50

Thank you! I will. It is actually from my blog hence a little more thought out than most of my posts! I live in Cambodia (but from UK). I tried to leave feedback on Ch4 itself but couldn't so did it via guardian and telegraph. But ofcom a good idea. Thanks!

belgo · 09/10/2007 11:52

do you have a link to your blog please? I'd be interested in reading it

Amethyst8 · 09/10/2007 13:48

I read once that new borns that are left to cry do not actually fall asleep in the end they pass out. May or may not be true but it says it all about CV's methods really doesnt it?

GTE · 09/10/2007 14:29

hi Belgo yes here it is www.motherland1.blogspot.com

just starting so not much up yet! gx

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