Anyone else with/had an early riser? Help/advice please

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Ds (aged 7) wakes early in the morning, usually before 7am. This is regardless of time he goes to bed.

I know this isnt excessively early (it used to be 5.30am). Over the simmer I tried to make a later bedtime of 8.30 but made no differnece. He still wakes early.

He now goes to bed and is asleep by 8pm now (usually).

Ds is tired and actually looks tired too. I dont really know what to do. I have said to ds if he wakes before 7am for the loo he needs to go back to bed afterwards. HE has a blackout blind up in his room but he turns on his bedroom light instead.

I basically decided if he is an early riser than so be it, but being getting him in bed earlier. HE is still tired tho. I dont know what to do. He has also just strated Juniors and has a op coming up for his tonsils and is going to be a big brother so perhaps this all has an impact.

Has anyone been here?

7am is not early.
tell dh to go to bed earlier - is this possible?

if ds is tired, try an earlier bedtime for a while, if he goes to sleep earlier, see if he still wakes up at the same time (bet he will). then once he is sleeping for say 12 hours a night try shifting bedtime forward 10 mins at a time...

I know 7 isnt excessilvely early but he is waking before then although i dont know what time as he doesnt wake us. 7 is the time we have said is the time we have said is ok for him to be up and about playing. Maybe I am unreasoable tho

is asleep by 8pm too late? The time flies so fast after school that it seems like it is bedtime really fast.

I have had this.5am not 7 though.
teach to tell the time.
change the clocks.
this works.

My Ds (7) is the same. He wakes about 6.50 and stays in his room till 7pm. He then comes and wakes us. We have tried changing clocks, getting him to read in his room etc. We have talked about needing to be considerate towards others, and it being unfair to wake people who are asleep. We offered him a later bed time if he stayed in bed longer in the morning.However he's usually so tired by 7.30pm he just has to go to bed.

We are kind of resigned to this being the way things will be till he turns into an adolescent who won't get out of bed.

I am just relieved it is now 7am and not 5.45am as it was when he was younger.

It's annoying though as DS2 and DD would sleep till about 8.30 if he didn't wake them.

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ds veers more towards 6. I know that he is def up before 7am. He is good and keeps quiet and actually doesnt come and wake me up until my alarm goes off. It is the tiredness he has that i want to help him with. He goes to sleep by 8 (bed at 7.30) now but still not getting enough.

sorry i misread your OP, thought it said dh is tired from your ds waking him up at 7am!!

so you actually want him to wake up later so he's not so tired, he sounds quite good staying in his room til 7am.

is anything waking him? traffic? birds? light?

i would first try an earlier bedtime and see if it makes a difference. then once his body is used to sleeping for longer, then try moving bedtime and see if he sleeps later.

mimizan - would you let your ds go downstairs and watch TV quietly by himself? i was always an early riser and that's what my mum let me do!

Awen, not much help, but just to say that my dd1 (nearly 4) will go through phases of early waking when dealing with unsettling events like those you described. She'll sleep till 8 or later normally, but when a bit stressed its 6.30-7am - and tired, but can't go to sleep earlier no matter what time I put her to bed.

That said, if you can get your ds to go to sleep a half hour earlier, I imagine that would help the tiredness...but if you can't, just lots of talking about up coming events and school might help?

We have let him do that in the past, but he goes really wild if he watches more than an hour of it. It's used as a reward on schooldays for getting ready for school. If he was to go and watch is as soon as he woke up I'd never be able to get him ready on time.

When he's having a Lego phase it's great as he'll go downstairs and play quietly for ages on his own.

I don't know what else you can do, actually it doesn't sound too unreasonable he is being quiet when he wakes up etc

thanks for all you views. bluejelly - i dont think he is unreasonable either. He is just tired.

Tomorrow is an early start for us all anyway as op day. Hopefully that will be a worry out of the way for him too. When back home I will try moving bedtime back a little too. I am sure it is just the way he works, early riser.

The old lady next door does wake up very early as well and is generally very loud banging around. It might be she disturbs him too, as on holiday in the middle of countryside he did sleep longer.

Oh well, we will move hopefully in near future too