advice on winding a young baby please?

[miniegg]

my DS is seven weeks old and bottle fed. he gets bad wind - some days much worse than others.
i do all the things the books say (feed him in as upright a position as possible; don't let him guzzle it; never shake the bottles of formula; etc etc) and I've tried infacol. (jury still out on whether it helps or not.)Usually after a period of thrashing around and wailing on my shoulder, he does a decent burp, and calm returns.
However, sometimes I feel that winding him actually makes the situation worse, or creates a problem when there isn't one.
On some occasions, it feels like the crying and thrashing about he does as soon as I put him over my shoulder, is a bit psychological - he starts up, the minute I put him into the winding position, but then, if I can't get him to burp, when I give up, and take him out of the winding position, he quite often calms down and stops crying. It makes me wonder if sometimes i'm actually adding to the problem, or creating it, by winding him.
Has anyone else experienced this?
What i'd like to know is, if he seems content immediately after a feed, as sometimes happens, particularly when he's very tired, is it okay not to wind him at all?

Maybe you are trying to wind him a bit soon. He may not be satisfied and needs a bit more milk before he is ready for a break.

Have you tried sitting him on your lap to wind him? You put your hand in a horseshoe shape up and under his chin and around the throat. Gently lift his head a little so the airway is straight and either pat his back or rub his back up and down, I found that rubbing a little firm and quite fast brought the wind up.

You don't need to wind after every feed. I found that if my 2 DS now 4 and 22 months, were milk drunk after a feed, I let them sleep and they were fine.

Have you tried baby massage? It is a great way of getting your baby used to being massaged and you get some useful tips about other safe positions to put them in.

have you tried rocking him? Kind of hold him on your knee then move you knee from side to side.

thanks for the suggestions, might try baby massage, as I like the idea of that.
have tried the sitting up with chin propped in horseshoe shape - it doesn't seem to work for him...

lie him on his back, lift his feet and push his knees to his chest, 1-3 times depending on baby, the put him into upright position

my ds was the same apparently while hunched up the wind pain isn't as bad when upright thats when they start to feel wind pain

my ds was a very windy baby didn't matter how much we winded him he was never finished we were told to burp him after every ounce he drank and to rub back while upright and to then have pillow propping up moses basket or on sofa and to have him sat upright for at least 10 mins before putting to sleep

try some gripe water thats good for wind they can have that from 4 weeks found that worked best for my ds infacol didn't