Sleepyhead deluxe

[Laurenpudney]

Hi, my baby is 2 week old and through the night she is struggling to settle and sleep in her Moses basket, I have seen the sleepyhead deluxe and that some people co-sleep with it and put it in their bed over night... just wondering if anyone has used one and if it's safe to use overnight in our bed.

No, it's not, sorry. I realise people use it this way but the guidance is quite clear - the baby needs to sleep on a firm flat surface away from any bedding or pillows. Just because a product is marketed for babies does not mean it is safe for them. I would only use one for daytime naps I could supervise.

If you want to co-sleep the safest way to do this is next to you, baby's head at about your boob level with you in the C position, this will protect her from the hazards in the bed such as pillows and covers. If you have the kind of cot you can push up to the edge of your bed without a gap you can do this on the outer edge, otherwise try scooting back so there is a large amount of bed between your baby and the edge (they will naturally gravitate towards you, anyway). If not you may have to face the middle. If you don't have a large bed it might be best if your partner sleeps elsewhere.

More info, including images showing the C position:
www.lullabytrust.org.uk/safer-sleep-advice/co-sleeping/

I agree with the pp. The sleepyhead should definitely NOT be used in the bed with you at night. Far too high of a rush from loose bedding and over heating.

Your baby is a newborn and isn't likely to settle well anywhere, they still think they are part of you. Try swaddling them to see if that makes a difference, it helped for me.

I use a sleep head but in a next to me cot instead could you do that instead ? I wouldn't use in the bed though though x

Hi!

Have a look at Purflo. They have a safe sleeping over night version of the sleepyhead. My son sleeps in it whilst in his cot.

purflo.com/the-sleep-tight-baby-bed/?gclid=CjwKCAjwh472BRAGEiwAvHVfGo1PINAqGT2UNcr-WI2wYcROAXTB3d-YFbQmTWhyIP4-okx8Q7f74RoCg-wQAvD_BwE

I have used ours in the way you describe.

No, the Purflo is no different to the sleepyhead. Just because it says it is certified - certified to what standard? There is no standard covering baby nests like this. It probably meets fire safety regulations or something. Irresponsible marketing.

In fact I looked as their FAQ and it says this:

"What tests has it passed and who accredits them?

"The Sleep Tight Baby Bed design was created using the most up to date and relevant safe sleep guidelines. As with any new Purflo baby product, advice was sought from two independent UKAS accredited test houses to determine the most appropriate testing.

"The product has undergone a comprehensive risk assessment and extensive, exhaustive safety testing relevant to marketing it as suitable for overnight use. Specific testing includes breathability, flammability, and unlike many nests and positioners in the market, rigidity and retention of side walls and roll tests."

What does that actually mean? First of all it doesn't actually mention any specific standard which is likely because one doesn't exist. OK, so it's good that they've then done their own tests, but still, "breathability" for example, generally this refers to airflow in terms of avoiding sweat, for example in sports shoes. It does not mean that an infant can press their face against it and still receive a sufficient flow of oxygen. But this is not explained by the company, presumably because they are happy to live with the misconception that "breathability" means you can breathe even if you push your face into it. What does the roll test involve, what does that mean? It can't prevent the baby from rolling, because it doesn't have any mechanism to do that. Does it prevent an adult from rolling on the baby? Honestly, if you're so deeply asleep/drunk that you don't notice rolling on an infant, you're not going to notice rolling onto a pillow either. And if you are not drunk or a deep sleeper, you can co-sleep more safely without using products that make it more likely the baby will be placed in a less-safe part of the bed.

How are products like this different from cot bumpers which are a known safety risk for infants?

I wanted to purchase one of these when my daughter was little (she’s 10 weeks now so she’s still little) she struggled to settle when we had just brought her home and I was truly exhausted! I tried everything and i was that desperate I was looking into purchase the deluxe sleepy head but after extensive research I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. I know a lot of people do sleep with these and imo it’s their decision as their baby and people should do whatever the feel is beat and what they feel is right. I just didn’t feel this was right. I would have rather had 0 hours sleep at night and know that I was following guidelines in safe sleeping than use one of these and something terrible happen. I’m sure it’s unlikely (to be honest I don’t know how unlikely as I haven’t researched statistics) but it’s best to be on the safe side to me. I also fount that white noise settled my little girl in the end and it does get easier and all that exhaustion in the beginning DOES pass! Although at the time it really doesn't seem like it. Congratulations too by the way x

It works for me and I wont be made to feel like a shit mum for doing it.

I would have rather had 0 hours sleep at night and know that I was following guidelines in safe sleeping than use one of these and something terrible happen

This is totally fair enough but I also think that it would be reasonable for someone to take the view that sitting up holding a baby all night every night is more dangerous than them sleeping in a sleepyhead.

Ideally no baby should sleep overnight in a sleepyhead, but where you have a baby who will not sleep unless held, it may well be the best option. I have friends who made this choice, one because she fell asleep holding baby and woke up to find he had fallen down the side of her. Thankfully no harm done.

Make the decision you feel is best given your baby’s circumstances. It’s easy to say they’re not recommended but if you have a baby who will not sleep any other way then it isn’t that simple

Purflo nest is great we used ours for 6 months in the snuzpod, on the sofa etc. Loved it.

At 2 weeks old most babies will be struggling to settle and be up many multiple times
It’s part of being so small

Moses baskets are fine

Agree with previous poster , swaddle at that age to help baby feel secure

I used a sleepyhead deluxe but when baby was about 3 months to 6 months and it didn’t make any difference to how well baby slept despite all the claims .

Ended up selling it

I only ever used it in a large cot with open spindle sides

@RoosterPie
Yeah absolutely which is why I said everyone should do what they feel is right. That was just how I felt but of course there is a flip side too. Thanks for pointing it out.

Loved my purflo nest and sleepyhead grande.
But as everyone else has said I never really used these for overnight.
They were used just for daytime naps where I could keep an eye on my children when they were little and it was somewhere safe for them to sleep in when on the sofa.
Especially for nights when either of them would be awake with teething or colds could come downstairs stick the tv on and settle them in the pillows and sit next to them.

Yes, absolutely, it's about balancing risks. If you're so tired that you can't function or look after the DC or might fall asleep holding them, then you have to find something that will get them to sleep (or allow you to fall asleep in a less risky way).

Just saying that if you're considering co-sleeping and thinking of using one of these products to offset the risk of co-sleeping, it's not a good balance of risks because these products introduce more risks, and make less-safe co-sleeping behaviours more likely. If you want to co-sleep then you should do it according to guidance.

I used one in the next to me cot because the mattress is them is so damn hard! I don't think it made any difference to sleep but it was useful when transitioning to the cot bed. What made a difference for me was a swaddle suit (I used the love to dream because she liked to suck her fingers).

I still have a barely used sleepyhead that I bought for use at mum's. I'll happily sell you it for a fraction of the price! PM me if you like.

I always feel that these products prey on desperate parents and introduce more risk.

Another vote for the Love To Dream swaddle!