So ... should I take her to the toilet at 10pm or what?

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Dd is 6, still not dry at night. However, the last two nights she's had a wee at about 10pm, then been dry for the rest of the night (Sunday night she was awake, went to the toilet - for the first time ever! - and decided not to put her pyjama pants back on, last night she woke up as she was weeing, so we ended up changing the bed).

It seems that she might be getting there, and she is desperate to give up the pyjama pants, so we are going to give it a go. But I'm not sure how to handle this 10pm wee - it seems she needs it but isn't quite ready to wake for it.

I have always been firmly anti-"lifting" (not that we could lift her, she's not exactly small!)as I feel that it simply trains them to wee either in their sleep or at a set time, but right now it doesn't seem like such a bad idea! I don't want to get her into the habit of weeing at the same time every night, though, and it feels as if taking her to the toilet might just be setting us up for another set of problems.

I am happy to change her sheets as and when we need to (well, "happy" is probably pushing it a bit but you know what I mean), and I almost feel this would be the best way to go ... but can't help wondering how bad it would be to wake her for a wee at 10pm.

Would welcome any thoughts from those who have done this - and from those who think it's a crap idea as well!

Will do - thank you. If we don't use them I can always pass them onto someone else who can.

But wwb presumably she has no further fluid intake after her wee at 10, so her bladder is not really filling up as quickly.

Presumably so, yes.

But up until now I'm sure that she has weed more than once in the night, and very heavily. Previously when we have tried to ditch the nappies we've had to strip her bed three times - and each time it was completely wet through.

So something is changing (and about time too )

What did you decide wwb? How did it go?

Weeeeell ...

She only had the one wee last night again.

Sadly it wasn't at 10pm when I took her to the toilet - she couldn't do one then. It was at 1am and we had tears and a wet bed.

She still wants to keep trying though, so it hasn't put her off completely! Maybe I'll try a bit later tonight.

tricky. But early days yet I suppose. Do you think she was awake enough?

She was definitely awake, and I went into the toilet with her so I know that she definitely tried. She just couldn't perform!

I don't usually go to bed until around 11, so I will probably try taking her then. Of course, tonight she will wake up at 10pm with a wet bed - sod's law!

You could try turning a tap on while she tries. That usually helps get thing flowing with dd.

I can't; the bathroom is separate from the toilet, and not close enough that she would hear if we turned the taps on.

I stood with her last night wishing I could turn the taps on to get her going!

She did it

Took her for a wee at 11 and she got up dry - went for a wee off her own bat at 7am.

excellent

Fantastic - great confidence boost for DD.

my 6 year old is currently at an enuresis clinic due to her bed wetting (once or twice a night, every night) we were told not to lift as its not a long term solution.
have you been in touch with your hv about it as shes old enough to be reffered

oh and also told no nnappies, nothing to drink 1 1/2 hrs before bed, no black current and 6 to 7 drinks a day. our daughter isnt producing a certain hormone but were giving it another month before getting tablets as you never know

I know about the hormone, spugs, and it's one of the reasons we have been taking the softly, softly approach with dd. I have no problems with her not being dry and would have been perfectly happy to have continued with the PJ pants until she's 7 if dd hadn't wanted to ditch them. She does, however, get stressed out and despondent when she wets the bed, so taking her to the toilet seems to be worth a try.

I'm not hoping to use this as a long-term solution, but with her still needing this one wee at night but seemingly otherwise dry, it seems a shame to set her up night after night to fail. She is desperate not to wear nappies anymore, and if this works as a short term solution until she is ready to go through the night without it then I am happy to do it.

Her paed has suggested an eneuresis clinic, but for one thing our GP won't refer her until she's 7, and for another I don't want to put undue importance onto it. Dd is a stresshead who would worry herself sick over being sent to the hospital about it - which would make things worse.