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What car seat do you have and do you recommend it?

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AliasGrape · 26/03/2020 22:09

Baby not sue till July but I’m getting anxious about how long lockdown might last and whether I’ll be able to get what we need, whether there will still be online shopping/deliveries available etc.

Whilst I’m trying to stay hopeful that will the picture will look different come July, I’m thinking if I at least get the car seat sorted I might relax a bit. So any recommendations gratefully received. I would probably slightly prefer ISOFIX but happy to hear people’s experiences either way. Also if ISOFIX do we need to get a professional to fit it?

Currently looking at the Joie I-level.

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District26 · 26/03/2020 22:31

We had the i level and although it was great when he was newborn, I ended up complaining to Joie customer service when he was 6 months because the headrest is soooooo tight! His poor ears were so squished and the bigger he got he just looked so uncomfortable. For reference he is 75th centile for height and head circumference.
What do you want from a car seat? Joie let us send that one back and we bought the 360 spin i level which we LOVE. honestly the spinning is underrated, so much easier to get them in and out. And rear faces to 16kg.

District26 · 26/03/2020 22:31

I meant 360 spin i-size sorry

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AliasGrape · 26/03/2020 22:40

What do you want from a car seat?

I’m trying to figure this out! I feel a bit clueless. Obviously safety first and foremost, and comfort for the little one. I liked the idea of the I-level because of its reclining feature and the reviews I read said it could therefore be used for longer periods of time. But then realistically I’m not sure how many long drives we’re actually going to go on with a newborn (we might be still in lockdown!) so maybe that’s not as important as I thought. The reviews did mention the headrest/ padding as a possible drawback so interesting to hear that was an issue for you. DH and I both have quite large heads, comparatively speaking, so if we pass on those genes it would definitely be a problem Grin

I like the idea of the spin feature, will check the 360 out.

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District26 · 26/03/2020 22:48

I literally never used the recline feature, you're not supposed to have them in there for too long when they're very little so I always used to transfer to the carrycot anyway. The I level is also very heavy, so if you have a heavy baby it's a nightmare. The only thing with the 360 I spin is you can't attach it to a pram base, the I level you can which is handy for if you just need to pop in somewhere for 5 mins rather than get the whole pram out. Have you bought a pram yet? Most travel systems come with a car seat.

welshweasel · 26/03/2020 22:52

Honesty doesn’t much matter. Any infant seat from maxi cosi, joie, be safe, britax would be fine. Personally I would go for one that you can use with isofix but can also be belted in - useful for holidays, taxis, trips in friends cars etc. I wouldn’t go for a lie flat one - no evidence that they are safer and they take up loads of room.

AliasGrape · 26/03/2020 23:06

Not bought a pram no, was thinking we’d go in a few weeks and test drive a few but obviously not sure if that’s going to be possible before July now so going to be relying on reviews and stuff for that too.

I was half hoping to find a second hand pram just to save the budget a bit (lost my incom, waiting to see if I’m entitled to furlough scheme) but I know you can’t have second hand car seats. However it may be that we end up getting the whole travel system including car seat if it works out more cost effective.

I feel really thick looking at all the reviews and stuff, I’m still not 100% sure what I’m supposed to be looking for and reading lists of features thinking ‘right, and is that a good thing or ....?’

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RedPandaFluff · 26/03/2020 23:14

It's really hard to decide - I remember being in your shoes a few months ago! We got the Cybex Cloud Z iSize and we're pretty happy with it. I'd recommend the following:

A seat that can recline - so if you arrive home and the baby is sleeping, you don't have to disturb the baby by taking it out of the seat, you can just recline it and let the baby sleep on

A seat that fits whatever pram you buy - so that you can take the car seat out of the car and put it on the pram base (again, minimal disturbing of a sleeping baby - are you seeing a theme here? Grin)

A seat that swivels when you put it in and out of the car (as above, it's a lot easier)

A seat that you can use an isofix base OR seatbelt to secure it (as already mentioned above).

The Cybex ticked all those boxes for us. I'd recommend going to a retailer though, once lockdown is over, and getting some advice. Oh and having a go at actually using them - clicking them into the base etc. Some of them need a knack and can be quite awkward!

Dyra · 27/03/2020 13:08

No you don't a professional to fit an ISOFIX base. It is always good to get it checked by a professional though. Just to make sure the seat is suitable and correctly fitted.

Things to think about with car seats:
Do you want one that sizes up with your baby, or will you buy a second one once they get beyond stage 0/1? Or even a third?
Do you want extended rear facing?
Do you want a car seat that stays in the car, or one you carry baby in and out?
Do you want one that clips onto your pram?
Do you need it to recline?
Do you want it to rotate?
Do you take taxies/get lifts from others often? If you do, you want a seat that also has seatbelt attachment without the base.

TBF, all of that is retrospective for me, as I got my car seat (Nuna Pipa Lite LX) in a bundle with my pram. I do love it, (it's so light!) but in hindsight, we've used it maybe a handful of times on the travel system. So that was a bit pointless in the end. I did like being able to carry baby into and out of the car in her seat. However, it's only stage 0, so I will definitely need another car seat in the coming months.

I'm quite keen on extended rear facing, and ISOFIX. Rotation is a bonus, and since I only need the seat for stage 1, it can stay in the car. Really not bothered by recline. So, I'm looking at the Cybex Sirona and Nuna Rebl. It does mean I'll have to buy a third car seat for when she's 4+ however. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 27/03/2020 13:13

We have the joie 360 spin and it's great.

Remember that not all babies like to sleep in the car, DS hated it and while we had a clip in maxicosi carseat, we never used it to transfer a sleeping baby, not once!!!

mindutopia · 27/03/2020 14:19

Honestly, infant car seats are all the same. We used a different one for each of our dc and I couldn’t even tell you now what they were. The only things that matter are that they detach (you don’t have to leave them permanently in your car, they’ll have a carry handle over the top) and that they snap into whatever pushchair you plan to use.

I would save money and worry about what car seat you’ll get next (after about a year). Those are more expensive and much different in quality and safety,

BertieBotts · 27/03/2020 23:26

It is a bit of a minefield OP.

Infant car seats are all the same, yep, that about sums it up. I am a bit of a car seat enthusiast (Blush - how sad is that?) and I completely agree with that comment. You basically can't go wrong with them because they are such a simple design and the fundamental part of that design - that it's rear facing - makes them incredibly safe. As mindutopia says, when you're looking at the seat they will go into after the infant one, then you need to be much more picky and careful, because for example some very cheap ones and even some quite popular ones, if you look at the crash safety, they are absolutely dire. There are some companies which are really bad for it. But if you look at the infant carriers of even these companies, they are fine. They score just as well for safety as seats from the most highly respected brands.

So I would not get too worried about the infant seat.

As for features:

Spinning you don't need with this stage, because the spin feature is useful when you're leaving the seat in the car and installing the child into the seat in the car. Whereas with an infant carrier, usually you will strap the baby into the seat in the house, and then carry the seat to the car. So it doesn't matter what direction you put it into the car, because you can just...turn it around with your arms :)

Isofix base - eh. It's slightly quicker than doing it with the seatbelt, but personally I don't think it's worth £100+ which is what most of them cost. DH reckons it was. I say, save it for when you have DC2 and you feel guilty about not buying them anything new, you'll actually want the extra 10 seconds it saves you then, because you'll also have a toddler to wrangle. Isofix vs seatbelt doesn't make a difference to safety except that a wrongly installed seat is unsafe, and isofix makes it pretty much foolproof to install. But seatbelt install really isn't that hard. Watch a youtube video (all the companies have them) and decide if it looks complicated enough to be worth it. (Joie i-level is one of the rare seats that won't install without a base. In that case it's included in the purchase of the seat, though.)

Isofix base that also takes the next type of seat - Almost always overpriced, massively limits your next seat choice, and if you have another child within 3 years, you may not even use this function. If you do get this, look further than this base's compatible seats when you upgrade. It's not always the cheapest/best option.

i-size compatible. If your car is i-size compatible, probably worth it right now, simply because it eliminates the need for a fitting. If your car isn't i-size compatible, don't worry about this. It's a slightly higher safety standard, but most old infant seats would have passed it anyway. If you do get an i-size seat, they come with height limits, whereas old ones don't. I recommend a height limit over 80cm as opposed to a lower one. It gives you a better overlap with the next type of seat.

Side impact protection - if you're interested in safety I would actually recommend looking for seats which state they have this. All the brands have their own various ways to achieve it. Also, all i-size seats have enhanced side impact protection. Will protect your child in the event you get T-boned. Some older, more basic, and/or non-i-size seats do not have this. That's the main difference in safety for infant carriers when looking at i-size and not.

Weight of the seat - worth bearing in mind. The average newborn baby weighs between 3-4kg on top of the weight of the seat. You carry the seat one handed. By 6 months this is more like 7-8kg and by 9-12 months, if you've gone for a heavy seat in the first place your arms will feel like they are coming out of their sockets. Add the weight of the seat to the weight of the baby. Joie i-Level is a very heavy seat, BTW.

Lie-flat seats - Potentially a bit of a gimmick, however I have heard people who absolutely LOVE them. Lie-flat position in the car is potentially thought to be a bit less crash-safe than the normal 45 (ish) degree angle. But obviously the 45 degree angle is potentially dangerous in terms of newborn breathing, so... something you simply have to weigh up. This is mainly an issue in the first 4 weeks. After that the recommendation is they can be in the seat up to 2 hours. It might be useful if you plan to bring the sleeping baby into the house in the seat - personally, I did this anyway, and just kept an eye on them. If you're really concerned about it the term to research is "positional asphyxiation in car seats".

Insert or padding or seat design to "make" the seat curve flatter for newborns - IME seems to actually work a bit better than the seats that market themselves excessively as lie-flat. However, tricky to judge without seeing a real newborn in the seat, you will not be able to do this unless you get very lucky with a photo search or review online.

Sunshades - useful, but you need one on the car window as well unless it's tinted.

Seat that "grows with your child" and covers older ages - not always terrible, but choose very carefully as often these types of seats make a compromise somewhere. Biggest issue is you won't be able to take it out of the car and carry it around, which is a bit of a pain. Again, consider future siblings. Best if fitted professionally into your car to check angle - not possible at the moment.

Compatability with a pushchair/travel system - Most brands are only compatible with their own type - Silver cross with Silver cross, Graco with Graco, etc. However. There is a sort of "universal" car seat attachment. This is commonly referred to as Maxi-Cosi adapters because Maxi-Cosi was the first brand to use it. If you buy an infant carrier seat from:

Axkid/Besafe/Cybex/Joie/Maxi-Cosi/Nuna/Recaro/Venicci

And/or your pushchair states that it's compatible with one of these brands, you can use any infant car seat from the above brands except Joie Juva (that only goes onto 2-3 Joie specific prams). Also, Cosatto Dock is Maxi-Cosi adaptor compatible, but the other Cosatto seats aren't.

The other oddity is Britax - some Britax pushchairs can be bought with a Maxi-Cosi adaptor, and any pushchair which is also popular in the US will have the option of Britax Click & Go adaptors meaning you can put a Britax Babysafe on there.

Special covers - Some claim to be "breathable", some you can buy a special summer cover to help wick away sweat in the summer months, some are made out of pure lamb's wool so that they don't contain any chemicals. If you get a popular brand and end up needing new covers you can generally find them second hand. Don't ever buy/use covers made by anyone other than the company who produced the car seat, though.

BertieBotts · 27/03/2020 23:30

If you have any specific seats/features you want more info on I'm happy to share what I know.

AliasGrape · 28/03/2020 15:12

Wow thanks guys, this has all been really helpful.

Bertie I’m gonna print your post out for reference! Thank you so much.

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thismeansnothing · 28/03/2020 16:00

Currently have the Joie I-Level. Got it due to it having a bigger age range and also the lie (almost) flat option as we had some long car journeys to do when DD was little.

Pros - DD is 13 almost 14 month now, still in it with plenty of room (75th centile baby for height and weight).
Comes with the isofix base.
It fits on our iCandy pram frame.
Got it as a deal with the pram so it was a bargain.
Love the extended canopy on it.

Cons - it's bloody heavy.. Especially so with a 13 month old in it..but even with a little one it was a bit cumbersome compared to the maxi cosi I had with my other DD.
Even though it fits on the frame of my pram (and I noticed this with a mum I saw with one on a Mothercare pram chassis) the way it clips in its like the seat is more upright so baby is sat up rather than cradled. Fine now she's a bit bigger. But this means couldn't use the lie flat option when it was on the pram frame as she ended up vertical.

thismeansnothing · 28/03/2020 16:01

Oh yerr other con. It can't be seat belted into the car. Which is a sod when DH drives off to work with the car seat base leaving you stuck at home for the day 😠😠😠😠

BertieBotts · 28/03/2020 23:10

Oh sorry I missed your other isofix question - no, you don't need a professional to fit an isofix seat. In fact the point of isofix is to make the seat easier to fit so it should be easy to fit yourself, whereas it can sometimes be more complicated with a seatbelt. But generally there are good guides in the manual and on youtube.

If you don't have the combo of an i-size car and an i-size seat it would be a good idea to check fitting lists for the car seat - the websites (Britax, Axkid, Maxi Cosi) etc often have them. Some you start with the car seat, some you start with your car model.

Temple29 · 29/03/2020 14:42

I had a Cybex Aton Q infant car seat because it came as part of the travel system. Definitely loved being able to attach it to the pram for popping into the shops. When DS when 8 months we got the Joie spin 360 and love that, it can be used from newborn if you don’t mind not getting an infant car seat first.

NameChange30 · 29/03/2020 14:51

In some ways infant seats are all pretty much the same but there are some important differences. There is quite a variation in how roomy they are, some have removable inserts and a decent amount of space for the baby to grow before they cramped. Others may become cramped and uncomfortable before the baby has outgrown it by height and/or weight (particularly true if you have a big baby).

I also think it's important to get a lightweight infant seat because it makes it much easy to lift and carry the seat with baby in it - not such an issue when baby is a newborn (except if you've had a c-section) but definitely as an issue as baby grows.

We bought a Cybex Aton Q before DS was born and didn't realise how cramped it was compared to other infant seats. It had cushioning that we assumed was removable but it wasn't. DS was around 96th centile for weight and had brought shoulders so he became cramped and uncomfortable in the seat way too soon. It should have lasted longer but we ended up buying another seat when he was only about 6 months old. At that point we didn't have many options open to us because he was still so young and needed a decent recline. If he'd been older (about 1 year old) we could have gone straight to a 25kg ERF Seat. As it is we had to buy a 18kg seat for the interim.

NameChange30 · 29/03/2020 14:52

Sorry about the typos

AnotherEmma · 29/03/2020 14:52

broad shoulders!

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