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Possible Aspergers, definite bad behaviour

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Putyourdamnshoeson · 09/12/2019 14:52

I'm a shell. DD is very nearly 10.DS is 7.
DS is a standard child, can be naughty, can be a wind up, is very grumpy on occasion, but it's normal, humans have moods sort of territory.
DD has always been difficult. She is funny and extremely intelligent too and we love them both to bits.
However, as she gets older, and especially over the last year, she has been holding us all to ransom with her arguing. She can blow up over the slightest thing.
Eg earlier her and brother jostling. Silly, normal kid behaviour. DS blows a raspberry and laughs. Not in a mean way, just a bit of carry on. She takes major offence immediately. DS protests only joking. DH, who isn't usually around in the morning deals with it, tells DS not to do it as his sister doesn't like it. But DD decides that isn't adequate parenting. Kicks off, we're not dealing with him properly, it's not fair etc.
She has, within the last 6 weeks actually told us that she doesn't agree that we get to make the decisions on parenting and consequences. That her opinion matters as much. She makes excuses, lies, back tracks. Trying to discuss anything with her is like nailing very argumentative jelly to the wall.
It's really hard to capture here what it's really like, because it's death by a thousand cuts. She has worn us both down. Gets far too much of our attention, both positive and negative. Her poor brother is missing out
DH used to think I was mad and tell me to just not engage when she was being unreasonable. But now he sees it more, because it's escalating, he agrees, there is no stepping back. As much as you try.
She howls and wails at the top of her voice and hijacks discussions, especially those when we're trying to manage her behaviour, to home in on one tiny element of what is being said, not the bigger picture.
She is exactly like FIL who, whilst has no Aspergers diagnosis, is text book.
In our area, you can not access autism diagnosis for kids aged over 5.
Help me. Please.

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DivGirl · 09/12/2019 14:59

What is it that makes you suspect autism? I realise autism is different in girls but I'm struggling to see any symptoms of autism from your description.

LeekMunchingSheepShagger · 09/12/2019 15:05

Have you googled autism in girls? Have a look and see if any of it matches. There isn’t enough info in your post to be able to give an opinion really (I have a dd with autism.)

PolterGoose · 09/12/2019 15:06

She sounds very like my ds, now 16, and diagnosed autistic at 6. His advanced arguing skills have ended up being a real bonus as he's developed excellent critical thinking skills and is very astute and an excellent self advocate. It is a PITA, but for vulnerable kids being able to articulate stuff is a real protection.

The Autism Act resulted in statutory guidance around assessment so don't be fobbed off with arbitrary rules about lack of diagnosis. If there's no provision your GP needs to make a case to the CCG for funding, and then a referral can be made either out of area or private.

The book The Explosive Child was my 'bible', and I'd also recommend Bo Elven's books and YouTube videos.

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Mintjulia · 09/12/2019 15:12

Hi, your daughter sounds exactly like my ds 11. Trying to negotiate everything, accusing me of being a control freak (because I ask him to do his homework), that I’m unfair, that I don’t know how to parent (when I say it’s bed time).
Shouting, slamming doors, it isn’t fun. I’m not sure he’s on the spectrum, I think he’s challenging boundaries to the limit. Smile
Have you talked to dd’s form teacher? Does she do the same at school? Or has she just learned how to push your buttons.
All I do is remain insistent, calm and unmoved at being called Cruella 20 times a day. It’s tough but hopefully it will pass.

OldElPasoHadAChicken · 09/12/2019 15:18

I've two DDs, my youngest sound like yours. Both of mine are typically adhd, eldest is also on the asd pathway (as an I, but I'm already double diagnosed with adhd) and I've no help at all with my youngest. My eldest is pretty pleasant and easy natured. My youngest sound like yours. It's breaking my family unit and it's hard to stave off any resentful feelings because I just don't get time with my eldest. Youngest DD dominates everything.

Different areas of the UK have their own criteria for sending patients to be assessed for different medical issues. In some places you have to push so, so hard and for a long time. If you can afford to go privately then that's a start. But also it can be worth not stating exactly what you think it is - read the book a PP mentioned. Speak to her teachers. Look up the definition of a coca cola kid.

Whatever it is or isn't, she and your family need help and support so please fight for it

Putyourdamnshoeson · 09/12/2019 15:55

Thank you.
She is pretty much text book aspie girl. She masks brilliantly, but obviously we see it.
She is amazing at school. She struggles a bit socially, but not anything like how she could. Much of this is down to sheer bloody mindedness on her part, I'm sure.

I don't know how I'm going to summon the strength, or time for a diagnosis. They have literally closed the assessment unit at our hospital.

I guess I'm unclear as to how it'll change anything, just naming it.

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PolterGoose · 09/12/2019 18:40

Naming it gives her some rights and protections. It is much easier being autistic with a diagnosis than without (I was diagnosed in my 40s). It will also help her to understand herself better, and this may make life easier for her and the rest of the family.

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