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Not the best parents evening

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Mumof21989 · 10/10/2019 17:00

Hi everyone. My daughter started school a month ago. She's 4.5. she did 16 ,months of nursery but only a few hours 13 for a year then only 6 a week . She has always been addicted to drawing pictures and art. At nursery that's what she spent most of her time at the art table making things. She has started school and has continued wanting to be on the art table. We went to her parents evening tonight and they said they think she is struggling with transition. They have asked a support worker for ideas to help her. They have suggested a chart and pictures so she can choose an activity to try next to encourage her off the art table. They said due to being busy at the art table she is abit of a loner as she's not really getting involved with much else.... They also said they are having to repeat things alot to her but she is slowly getting the hang of what colour house she is in and what she needs to do etc. They sort of said she's in fairyland and daydreaming alot too.

At home she is able to write her name now but looking through her work today she is doing it all wrong. They said she can't cut out yet and she needs encouragement with that and holding a pencil properly. They also said she doesn't talk much. She speaks but only a little.

I think alot of it is the lack of experience and all this new stuff that she has never done before. Her nursery was a forestry nursery and it was mainly free play. So now she is having to learn all about registers, work books, lining up, rules and boundaries that are different to nursery. She's in a big play ground and in a slightly stricter setting that nursery.

They did say she is really good and always happy and smiling. I just wish she would mix and chat more and obviously take part more. I will try and do some cutting etc at home with her. Socially we went to baby groups for 6 months then a weekly playgroup for a year. Then she had 8 months at home whilst I had her brother then went to nursery. Every week we saw a boy her age and went to the parks etc with him and his mum. So she has mixed over the last four years.

Please don't think I'm writing this in a rude way but I fear they will start presuming there is something wrong with her or thinking I've not done anything with her. How can I help her be more confident or will it come with time? She's only been at school for a month so she hasn't had long to take it all in yet has she? Other children have though obviously so I'm sad my little girl isn't shining yet.

Any experience or ideas?

I know she is still only 4 but Is this a sign something is not right with her or is she just lacking in experience compared to kids that did more nursery and have more adults in their lives etc? My daughter only has me and her dad. Her dad works long hours so we don't get much time to sit down one on one as I have a toddler too who's awake when she's here.

I always felt guilty about her not doing much nursery but she was ill constantly and our son ended up in hospital as a baby as he could not fight anymore germs off over the last winter. It was a frightening time and I made the decision to cut her hours down to 6 a week and it worked and broke the cycle.

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HepzibahGreen · 11/10/2019 07:44

Oh good lord please don't start the "maybe it's asd" stuff. Yes, some children have asd

HepzibahGreen · 11/10/2019 07:49

Pressed too soon. .but there us also such a thing as personality!
Op, my son went to nursery for 3 years before school, but for the first six months ish in reception he didn't mingle much, was quite shy and spent all his time doing jigsaws. He couldn't write his name or use scissors properly, but luckily his reception teacher was all about free play and there wasn't any formal "school" .
He's a teen now, lots of friends, excellent at drawing and academically fine.
Your daughter is tiny. Scool can be overwhelming for quieter kids. Let her be, don't worry and don't get her worried. I'm sure she will be fine.

Wornoutalready · 11/10/2019 08:02

Honestly I have worked in reception, some children will have not been to nursery at all and only ever been at home until school. They may have done nothing structured.
We definitely had children still at the parallel play stage and children who just weren't very sociable.

In regards to the art table free play was just that.
As long as they had done the work with a teacher they could free play where they wanted.
The only time we intervened was if the table had four spaces and it was constantly full and we needed a child to give others a turn.

I really wouldn't be worrying at this stage.

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Mishappening · 11/10/2019 09:07

It is such early days I will not worry until after Christmas. - Christmas 2020 might be a time to start worrying if she is not interacting with her peers by then.

Sleephead1 · 11/10/2019 09:39

Hi op it doesn't sound like this is such a surprise to you. It wasn't to me either but it was still awful to hear that my little boy was spending most of his time alone at the first parents evening. I was a stay at home mum and took him to lots of classes , met people for playdates ect but honestly I was always there with him. I knew he would struggle and he did hes shy , sensitive and reserved and there is nothing wrong with that. At the next parents evening I got told he was mixing much better and now in year 1( I havnt had parents evening yet ) I can see hes grown in confidence and hopefully he will continue to but hes never going to be Mr Confident or outgoing and that's fine it's just his personality and I love his nature. Try not to worry you know her , you know her personality she was never going to be the child on the first day chatting away to everyone full of confidence , if in all social situations it takes her a while to warm up then school will be the same. I know as an adult I would find it difficult to start somewhere with 20 something strangers and open up , make conversation ect.

Mumof21989 · 11/10/2019 10:02

Thanks everyone. I also don't like the suggestions that she could have something wrong with her at this stage. I think I'm fearful that if she doesn't prove herself they will start presuming she needs assessing. I was a kid in the 90s and autism was unheard of amongst my peers. there were children who needed more help and that's all it was. They are all parents themselves now and work etc. It does seem like they jump to this alot quicker now and it gets parents worried.

I also don't see the damage from her enjoying the art area. I agree she needs encouragement to play one on one abit more with her peers but if it's her passion it's sad to take it away from her.

Thank you for all your reassurance and I will try and update this post to let you know if she settles more.

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Notonthestairs · 11/10/2019 10:20

She's so young and just started so I wouldn't be worrying. Let the school get to know her better. I'm sure she will flourish in her own good time.

But the children you mentioned not being diagnosed in the 1990's is not a good thing. Diagnosis leads to targeted support and children who would otherwise be considered naughty or stupid should now receive support (doesn't always happen but it should). I have a daughter with learning disabilities and ASD and I'm very grateful for the specialised help she gets. And no two children will need exactly the same support. I shudder at what children from previous eras faced.

uggmum · 11/10/2019 10:29

My ds was similar. Went uk a private nursery which was a very nurturing environment.

He struggled to adjust to school and was very tired.

The main issue was reading and writing. He wasn't making progress. He didn't seem to be able uk read at all. Well behind his peers.

After a year we discovered he had an eye condition. He kept saying he could see 2 of everything when reading but it didn't click with me.

He has double vision when reading. It's due to the muscles which control rapid eye movement.

He was on an IEP for 3 years.

However, he is now 16. Passed all his gsce's with A's and B's and is now doing A levels.

He still has the eye condition but over time he has learnt to control it to a degree.

I think my point is. That all children develop at different rates. I would accept all the additional support at school and avoid comparing your child with others. It sounds like she is happy in herself.

As parents we all feel guilty at times. But be kind to yourself

PerpetualStudent · 11/10/2019 10:42

Using too much paper?! Give me strength!!
Take in a stack of printer paper off amazon and ask them to call you when she gets through that lot!

Don’t worry, and don’t feel you have to force your DD to change. She will get where she needs to be with care and encouragement and starting from where she’s at in terms of temperament and interests x

Mumof21989 · 11/10/2019 11:55

Thanks all. It's good to see your opinions and my family say she is doing it on purpose or I need to be firm etc. When she went silent after her brother was born my parents accused us of being to nice to her as we tell her it's ok and she doesn't have to worry and talk if she finds it too hard. They think we should give her a telling off. I've just tried to speak to my sister about it and she said my daughter is doing it on purpose and is being stubborn trying to only do what she wants. They always se so judgey about her. My mum has also said last time they looked after her she barely spoke and my partner told her she was ok and it was fine. My mum said perhaps he's being too soft with her and should be telling her not too be so silly as she will think it's ok to ignore them. The thing is we have read up on it and snapping, telling her off and pressuring her makes it worse. It's so hard when some says she's is shy and others say she is playing up.

I hope she proves everyone wrong one day soon because I know underneath she is so anxious and finds it hard to be apart from me. X

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