Whole Milk

[ChinChinPassMeTheGin]

Hi mums.

I am a mummy of a 8 and a half month old bundle of joy. I already cook his meals with whole milk and I’m just wondering how and when I start to wean him off formula and onto whole milk for his bottles. X

And @hazeyjane - nice that you have at least retracted your earlier statement about working with children who allegedly fill up on formula. Now it’s your kids.

I know very few pre five year olds who what they should. Mine certainly didn’t. So rather than compromise their development by swapping formula for nutritionally inferior cows milk, I kept them on the formula till they didn’t want it anymore. Also no need to give them vitamins. Jobs a good un.

My only gripe is that they were too used to an expensive brand and wouldn’t drink the cheaper one.

Bizarrely the NHS manager I was talking about earlier on the thread who was promoting a “cows milk with vitamins” agenda like to give my dds a treat of biscuits or chocolate. But she was actually involved in pushing an NHS policy to tell women not to give formula after 1. What a waste of money.

Think if the comments here were about breast milk that the op had in the freezer - would you be telling the op to stop giving them breast milk?

Formula is not poison. It’s the second best food for babies and we need to stop all the silly dogma.

And @hazeyjane - nice that you have at least retracted your earlier statement about working with children who allegedly fill up on formula. Now it’s your kids.

Um...no, I haven't retracted anything! My girls went straight on to cows milk, my ds needed a fortified milk for longer for very specific needs. I still stick by the fact that I have ...worked with a few children who barely eat anything at 3, because they drink so much formula, and plain refuse milk or milk substitutes. which is exactly what I said earlier.

@zsazsajuju arla big milk has vitamins already in or you could just add something like vitabiotics wellbaby 5ml spoon to a cup of milk a day or to a yoghurt or whatever. I didn't find it hard switching at 12 months and as another pp stated I do think most make the change. If there is a problem with diet or other concerns I'd understand why some may delay the change though.

By the way, vitamins A, C and D are also recommended for children who drink less than a pint of formula a day.

The link says
Babies who are having more than 500ml (about a pint) of infant formula a day shouldn't be given vitamin supplements. This is because formula is fortified with vitamin D and other nutrients.

Children over 1 only need 350mls of milk to get the calcium they need. Giving 500ml or more of formula would fill space that should be for solid foods. If they are taking less than 500mls then vitamins A,C and D are still recommended

Exactly demented

Exactly @dementedpixie if people give their toddlers all of that milk they would never eat anything. That's why they say as well 'food is for fun until one' because by then diet should take over and the child should get most of their vitamins from food. I can understand the prolonged formula use in cases of a poor eater, dietary problems or other concerns though.

Once your baby is six months old, and up until they are five years, daily vitamin A, C and D supplements are recommended (unless they’re having 500ml or more of first infant formula each day).
From the NHS
500ml+ is a lot of milk!

Again from the NHS....
Try to give your child at least 350ml (12oz) of milk a day, or 2 servings of foods made from milk, such as cheese, yoghurt or fromage frais.

But zsazsajuju thinks the NHS is led by an anti formula conspiracy any way!!

1 year then go to normal milk mostly after 2, keep a bit of whole milk around for a more filling bottle than just go 100% normal milk. We reduce to the first and last and then first (bit longer lazing in bed).

OP drop formula at 1, follow on milks are pointless and they should be getting a balanced enough diet after 1 to not need formula.

Give you child full fat milk from 1, yes you can start to introduce cows milk on their porridge, pancakes or muffins at about 11 months but at 1 their drink can go to a cup of milk, no bottles.

You can use full fat cows milk in cereal and other foods from 6 months as long as the main drink remains breastmilk or formula