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Kmccrae82 · 20/07/2019 13:00

Hello. I'm a mum of a 6 year old and 2 year old, both boys. The 6 year old was fine growing up and we had no issues with him but the 2 year old is sooo much hard work. For no reason he will kick off. He will purposely go and find things to throw at us. He will pinch, hit try and bite us and he will just destroy stuff on purpose. He is behind in his speech and I dont know if that has anything to do with his behaviour. We didn't have any of this with our eldest. Is this normal? I am at breaking point now and I don't know what to do

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SmartPlay · 20/07/2019 14:33

First of all, you should reconsider this statement: "For no reason he will kick off" - he surely has a reason, you just don't know what it is. Keeping that in mind is already helpful, because it puts some focus on the reason behind his behaviour.

How do you react if he acts that way?
And how does a typical look like for him?

Kmccrae82 · 20/07/2019 14:59

I tell him no and try and sit him on a chair. He smirks at me when i say no to him. He will for no reason though go and pinch or hit his older brother and if i tell him off he smirks and carries on doing it

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Bourbonbiccy · 21/07/2019 00:30

How old is he, is he just 2 or nearly 3? As I think there is a difference.

Does he understand what you are telling him, if he is a bit slower with speech is he also with understanding ?

There is a reason he is upset, he just can't tell you and you don't know. And anything can seem like such a big deal to a little one who doesn't really know themselves just how to deal with their emotions

What sorts of thing is he "kicking off" for?
What happens if you try and distract when you can see somethings upsetting them ?

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Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 07:08

He will be 3 in October.
He can say a words and some sentences just not as many sentences as he is meant to say according to the hv but he understands everything you say to him.
With his brother he will he kick off because he wants what his brother is playing with even though he is already playing with some thing else, but then other times he will just pinch or hit him when his brother is just sitting watching something.
He will just suddenly switch. One min he is playing and then he will kick off and i don't have any clue as to why

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SmartPlay · 21/07/2019 10:54

Sorry, I just noticed a sentence in my post from yesterday was not complete .... "And how does a typical look like for him?" should mean "And how does a typical DAY look like for him?"

Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 13:54

Do you mean what do we do during the day?

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SmartPlay · 21/07/2019 13:56

Yes :)

ElphabaTheGreen · 21/07/2019 13:59

Sounds exactly like my two, OP. DS1 (7) is Perfect Peter, DS2 (almost 5) is Horrid Henry. I think it’s a real firstborn-secondborn pattern that I’ve also seen among a lot of RL friends. DS2 has become less violent the more language he has acquired but he’s still the wild child of the two - I suspect he always will be.

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Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 14:27

We do lots of different things. Except on a Friday we go to a different group every day. We do swimming, play, messy play and we do a toddler park play group. Once they are finished we go for a walk in the afternoon once he has had his lunch. Then its normally time to do the school run and pick his brother up

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Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 14:28

I'm glad it isn't just me then. I am starting to think i have done something wrong

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SmartPlay · 21/07/2019 18:41

Seems like he gets a lot of attention from you when his brother is at school - your examples of his behaviour sounded a bit like her does it for attention.
How is it with attention once his brother is at home? I know your older kids needs attention to, but your toddler might feel he doesn't get enough. Is it possible he wants attention from his brother? Do they play together?

Another thought: Maybe going somewhere every single day is too much for him. Kids get overstimulated easily, which can result in bad behaviour.

I wouldn't sit him on a chair or do any sort of time-out at that age - at least not as a form of punishment. I think time-outs are effective if the kid is going nuts and actually needs some time-out to be able to calm down. But as a disciplining method I find it useless. Do you explain to him, how he has to behave? Something like "This hurts, you have to be gentle" - including showing him how to be gentle and giving him alternatives to pinching etc., e.g. "You can stroke me instead".

I've written a whole novel (felt like one at least) about toddlers and tantrums/bad behaviour at the netmums forum a few weeks ago ... I'll try to find it and paste it here, maybe something will be usefull for you.

SmartPlay · 21/07/2019 19:09

Found it:

The main reasons kids act up are these:

  1. Independence
  2. Way of communication
  3. Overwhelmed
  4. Attention
  5. Boundaries
  6. Something is wrong
  7. Overstimulation
  8. Too little exercise/too much energy

ad 1: Toddlers want to be independent, they want to do things by themselves. Let your son do and choose as much by himself, as possible. If a toddler is allowed independence and choice, he will easier accept when he does NOT have a choice.
Think about how much your son does by himself or at least help you with and contemplate whether he could be allowed to do/help more. Even encourage him to try and do things by himself.

ad 2: If you want something from your toddler, clear and precise communication is important. We've been taught that it's polite to ASK, if we want someone to do something. However, with small children that's just counterproductive, since you give them the impression of choice, when they actually don't have one. This just leads to frustration on both sides. So if your son has to do something, don't ask him, TELL him. Like instead of "Would you please hold my hand while crossing the street?" say "We are crossing the street. Please hold my hand!"
Also, avoid the word "not". This is an abstract word which changes the meaning of a sentence into the complete opposite and which kids need time to understand. Also, it's much easier for a child to follow an instruction, compared to being told what NOT to do and then having to think of what to do instead. Example: Instead of "Don't run off!" say "Stay by my side!"

And make the instructions short and clear. No lenghty explanations in a situation in which you simply want your child to do, what he's being told. There is time for these, when everything is nice and calm.
When you give your son instructions, also make sure you have his attention. If he doesn't listen, when you tell him to do something, say his name a few times until he looks at you, or hold him and go down to his level and tell him once he looks at you.

ad 3: Don't give too many choices. Yes, he should be allowed to decide many things for himself, but choosing between 10 T-Shirts or 5 possible activities might be too much. 2 options are often sufficient to satisfy a toddler's need for independence and don't overwhelm them.
Don't give too many instructions at once either. One at a time is enough at this age.

ad 4: Try to give your kids positive attention. Play with them, when they are calm, read to them, etc. There will be less reason to get your attention by acting up, if they also get it when they behave nicely.
If you give them enough attention during their good times, try to not reward bad behaviour with attention if it isn't necessary.

ad 5: A child is testing, that's normal and healthy. They need to know where their boundaries are, what behaviour is acceptable, what's possible and what's not. Which means you have to think about your personal boundaries and be consistent. If something is not acceptable to you, don't give in because your son gets too annoying. You wouldn't give in with other boundaries, like running onto the strees either, would you? If you give in, your child learns that this boundary actually isn't there and he will keep on testing, because he needs to find it. Also it teaches him that your words are not to be takes seriously and that he just needs to pester you long and hard enough to get what he wants.
The consequences if overstepping boundaries should also be clear and logical. Time-outs are mostly not, since they have nothing to do with the offence ... unless the child is overy agitated and actually needs to calm down. Try to think of logical consequences, like having him clean up if he throws food on the floor on purpose. Taking a toy away from him, if he hits someone with it.

ad 6: Bad behaviour can also be caused by problems - like stress because the parents are fighting, or the grandmum died or anything that is troubling him. Also YOU being stressed often leads to bad behaviour. I know it is hard if you're exhausted and annoyed, but try to be as calm and positive as possible when around your son. He "smells" your stress and this will make him act up even more. Start by doing something nice with him, when his sister is at school - that also covers the attention part.

ad 7: Turn off the TV, PC, tablet, smartphone, radio etc. Noisy toys might unfortunately break one after the other (= take out the batteries). Create a calm environment with toys and activities that require him to concentrate, instead of winding him up.

ad 8: Make sure your son gets to move a lot - playgrounds, parks, meadows, woods, swimming pools. Also at home. Even if you have a small place, he can at least dance at home. Preferably while you both sing yourself. Either just free dancing to any song, or some of those many kids' songs with particular movements (Hokey Cokey etc.). Depending on the space you can also have a mat to play/exercise on (IKEA has a nice foldable one), use the stairs (e. g. jumping up the stairs), have a hoolahoop, big gymnastic ball, indoor climbing wall, swing and/or rope.

Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 19:25

We do say to him that it hurts and he should play nicely. I don't raise my voice at him because i just think that would make it worse.
He is fine generally when his brother is not here and if his brother tries to play with him he just takes what ever he has and if his brother refuses to give him it then he will throw something at him or hit him or pinch him. My eldest is quite a sensitive child and gets upset when he gets hurt or his brother's starts with him.
Maybe your right with the attention thing but he is with me all day and has me to himself so its not like he doesn't get attention.

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Kmccrae82 · 21/07/2019 19:26

Thank you ill give it a read Smile

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Tigger001 · 21/07/2019 19:38

Great run down @SmartPlay. Will keep this in mind for nearly 2 year old.

yukuo · 25/07/2019 01:33

@SmartPlay has great points! I recently read a book on how to get our kids to say "Yes" from Dr Daniel J Siegel.
bit.ly/2Y6KDaX

Hope it helps.

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