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Three year old and preschool - any EYFS people about?

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sittinggeese · 16/05/2019 11:13

Hi all,

Bit of advice/thoughts if you don't mind from those who've been there and done it or work in an early years childcare setting.

My three year old started going to a preschool for three mornings a week at the start of the year and recently increased to three days a week after her birthday (so she's now doing just over her funded 15 hours). I'm a sahm, and before going she'd never been left with anyone other than grandparents before although she's always delighted to be left with them.

We had a bit of upset at drop off the first week which I expected but other than that she seemed to be settling ok. She likes to go and is never upset at drop off now. The manager (who is her key worker) asked if she had a comforter to bring for when she feels a bit unsettled which she does.

Since we've gone to full days at almost every pick up if I ask how she's been/if she's had a nice day I'm being told that she's very anxious, particularly about where I am, tends to stick to her key worker, cries when she's asked to change activity (but is fine once distracted by the new task) and that she seems to obsess over things (like she'll ask something repeatedly or talk about the same thing over and over). They've asked me to collect her half an hour early each day because they think she's finding the longer days hard (she does 9:15- 3pm) since she's dropped her last nap. They keep using words like 'rigid' and 'obsessed' and although she can be a bit stubborn at home I wouldn't go so far as to say she's rigid.

Is this normal? Every day I'm starting to feel like they're trying to tell me there's something wrong with her, but I mostly feel like this is fairly normal just turned three year old behaviour. She's generally pretty well behaved at home, she does throw the odd wobbler when she can't have her own way which I manage appropriately- I think. She is very inquisitive, she's advanced with her academic learning (speech, counting, letters etc) to the point where they've asked if I mind her taking part in the phonics learning with the older children there. We don't hot house her in any way I've just always had time to read with her, play numbers games etc and she loves it. I always thought her inquisitiveness was just part of her learning. She has been a bit grumpier than usual lately but I've put that down to cutting her final nap and her getting used to that.

I don't mind collecting her early if it's in her best interests I will do whatever to ensure that she's happy and settled. But should I be asking them to manage this better? They've suggested we buy a trampoline because she occasionally tip toe walks and apparently they do this to make themselves feel 'bigger' and the bouncing can ease their anxiety.

This is all new to me!

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sittinggeese · 24/05/2019 08:55

Well exactly @Chippychipsforme .

I don't know it's just all got me so worried. I don't want to be that parent who is blind to it when their child has a development/social problem and I feel like they're trying to tell me there's something wrong with her. It's a lovely playgroup and the ladies who work there always seem so kind and nice. I get the impression that DD is a pain so they want to send her home if that makes sense?

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MummyBear2352 · 24/05/2019 09:15

I wonder if she might enjoy it more to go 5 days a week mornings only? If that is a possibility? It is a long day for little ones I think even at school age. I wonder if the nursery are thinking possible aspergers? The things that make me wonder - very advanced for age, sticks to key worker rather than playing with children, rigid thinking, slightly obsessive over certain things, anxiety and tip toe walking. Mine was very bright too and not diagnosed till 10 xxx

mindutopia · 24/05/2019 09:28

I really think it just sounds like she isn't settling and they haven't spent enough time helping her to settle. If there was a developmental issue, it would be obvious to you at home, especially with the stresses of having had a new baby recently, which can bring up any underlying issues that might be there. My gut feeling that it would be the environment, not the child. I've had 2 children in nursery full time from 9-11 months, and the only time I ever got a call to collect one of them early was in the first 2 months after they started when they got so upset they couldn't calm down. Other than that, nursery staff are trained to spend focused, attentive time to child to help them bond and settle in. They would go out of business if they called everyone back every time a child was getting upset. They need to find creative and developmentally appropriate ways to support her. I think the clue is in their attitude to you being a SAHP. They may see you as an easy way out and perhaps one less over tired child to manage in the afternoons.

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missyB1 · 24/05/2019 10:52

Ask what is the plan to help your child manage her anxiety and transition issues. You need to be part of that plan. It may be that early pick ups do form a helpful part of the plan and I wouldn't be too dismissive of that if I was you. I work in a Nursery and we have had some children who struggle so much to cope that we have had to reduce their hours for their own sake. I know you think they might be taking advantage of you being a sahm but actually it's about the child's best interests and well being rather than what suits the parents - and some parents do seem to get a bit confused by that!

Ask if they can recommend any strategies for you work on at home that will help support her at Nursery. And don't focus so much on her academic abilities. At the moment she needs help with confidence and emotional resilience when she's away from you. Phonics etc there is plenty of time for when she starts school, she's still very young.

sittinggeese · 24/05/2019 11:27

@MummyBear2352 All mornings isn't possible I'm afraid. From September they're phasing our split mornings and afternoon sessions entirely it's full days or nothing.

@missyB1 I don't actually focus on academic achievements. She's only just three. I wrote that to illustrate what she does that might be out of the usual norms for her age. We do read lots but at home we focus on play very much. Loads of garden time, playdoh, painting, baking etc. She's learned counting from foam numbers sticking to the side of the bath - and a Peppa Pig app thing on her Kindle (shes allowed a couple of 20-30 min sessions a week). She asked me 'what comes next after twenty?' and I explained up to 25. I encourage her certainly but she's in no way sat at home being 'taught'.

Well I've spoken to playgroup. They said they definitely do not give her a dummy. She apparently focuses a lot on one of the smaller children who has one, and asks about it and they tell her X child is only two, so she still has her dummy but that DD is a big girl now so she doesn't have one.

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yoursworried · 24/05/2019 14:09

Hi op, just wanted to say my DD was very clingy and rigid at 3. She found drop offs hard and was clingy and routine focused. At about 3.5 I changed her pre-school as we moved and the difference was unbelievable. The new pre-school was a bit more routine focussed and she was guided into choosing her activity. Lunch was calmer, groups were smaller. I realised that actually her first preschool just didn't suit her personality: it was louder, a bit freer and a bit more chaotic which worked for some children but not for her. Her personality transformed between 3.5 and 4 . She's now 6, non-clingy, adaptable, easy going and loves school.

Perhaps try a different pre-school, they don't all suit all kids.

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