Bambineo Size 2 only lasting 2 hours??

[maveta]

Is this normal? My ds is only 10 weeks old (approx 12lbs) and I do think he´s a bit of a super soaker but still. His bimbles last approx an hour now (!!) so I´m looking at what nappy to move him into as size 2. I have bambineo´s in size 2 but like I say, they only last 2 hours and what´s more his skin is clammy when I take it off (with a fleece liner inside) - is this all I should expect from a cloth nappy? I put him in a fuzzi this morning with the fuzzi insert and small wonderfull booster and it lasted 4 hours. I love cloth but I´m getting pretty discouraged by the amount of boosting he seems to need. Or does this seem normal? Any opinions?

For night he´s already in a bambineo boosted with a bimble and that seems to keep him dry but if this is what he needs at 10 weeks I´m scared to think what he´ll need in a few months...

HELP!

How many times have your bambineos been washed? I found mine did need the recommended 10 washes to get to absorbancy (although i did use them between washes!)

10 washes??! Is that really the recommended amount?! I would guess they must be approaching that now.. they were washed 3 times before I used them and they´ve been through quite a few washes since then. I think.

Okay dh has just shouted through that he´s soaked through AGAIN and it´s been 1 hour 15mins. This doesn´t seem right..

ME airflow or nature babies but they´re not the problem, the wetness isn´t coming through the wrap, it´s just that he´s wet through the nappy so quickly (and his skin is humid despite a fleece liner)..

You have got the booster folded in half and put over his boy bits haven't you?

I've found my ds who is a pretty heavy wetter at the best of times has gone through phases of being an extremeley heavy wetter, normally when he is cutting a tooth.

It is easy to get disheartened when you are changing nappies every hour, but I found with my ds it was short phases that only lasted a few days.

I find even now though that my bamboo nappies feel a lot wetter than my terry ones. I actually found that when he was having a heavy wetting phases terry towels were better than bamboo. I bought some very good quality ones from elliepants, but I also have some little ewe ones which I like alot. I found his skin didn't seem to be as clammy in terry cloth.

I wouldn't worry too much about his skin being damp, particularly if you are changing him very frequently. There are some who say that babies bums should be a bit damp and disposible nappies whilst keeping them dry, actually dry out the skin.

Flame - yes we fold it.. in fact I´d started to doubt whether I was supposed to..

tutu - well hopefully it´s just a phase then because at this rate I can´t keep up with the washing!

Maveta, have you tried pinching a booster out of one of your other Bambinex nappies and popping it into the nappy you're using (lay it flat) and then fold the nappy's booster to the front as Flame suggests?

If this helps you can buy them separately.

You may also wish to trial a new booster I'm just waiting for. If you email me your postal address I will send you one. emma at makesachange dot co dot uk.

I've had this too, Maveta. I've just spent a couple of days trying out the various nappies I bought for dd, who's 4 months, and I'm most disheartened to find how wet they get and how quickly. And, like you say, her skin is quite wet despite the fleece booster.

I've been using nature babycare disposables, and i honestly thought dd was not weeing very much, as i hardly seem to need changing them, and they only get wet and heavy overnight.

HOwever, all the cloth ones get wet through after 2-3 hours, and I wasn't expecting it. I found no reference to it on all the sites I browsed endlessly whilst buying.

I'm really not keen for her to be in a soggy nappy, and can't see how it can be good for her skin, so unless I find a suitable cloth, I'll be ditching the idea, sadly....

I used cloth with ds, but not at night - bought Moltex disposables (have less bleach and gels than most and are biodegradeble). I spent nights getting up 2-3 times to change him, drenched and miserable. So I started putting the Moltex ones on for his long night sleep and got some sleep myself. Used reusable all day though, and they were fine but did need changing every 3 hours or so.

Maveta - is dh putting fabric cond in the machine ????!!!

Ernies bum will be wet after 2/3 hours with a fleece liner in - but you should be changing that often anyway really - whatever they have on. We went through this not long ago and I was baffled - but sorted itself out. Is it the nappy soaking through or the wrap leaking that is the problem?

We're not boosting during the day and just one normal booster at night with a fleece liner on top will take him right through - I only change if he has done a poo.

I am baffled by the chaffing at the moment - see my post!

Makesachange - I still have your bumhugger!

Are there more than 2 sizes in bambineos? I have what I thought was a size one which should fit til about 6 months

I do think all the real nappy sites should make it clear that you'll need to change more often than with disposables. It seriously is putting me off.

Is this the case for everyone else, changing every 2 hours-ish?

if you have a heavy wetter you are just unfortunate, my first in cloth was like this she ended up in double boosted original bumbles from about 14 months which were fab. I haven't been overly impressed with bamboo tbh hemp is better but more bulky

Sponge - you really should change any nappy every 2-3 hours whether cloth or disp.

I was going to say that too Octo, and also that you have to get used to nappies feeling wet when you change them as they don't have all those nasty gel crystals in them.

urggghh the crystals - yak!

But i don't think the nature-thingy disposables have crystals, do they?? They just seem all papery/pulp to me (not that I've pulled one apart to look!)

I usually find I can go longer between changes, as nappy is not wet/heavy, dd's skin is not soggy. Obviously do change when she poos, which is usually only a couple of times a day. so i change about 7am, 11am, sometimes go through til 4ish, then 8ish.

I suppose I could get used to more frequent changes, but the wet skin is a worry for me. Tried to use the bumble for the first time today, but she pooed in it straight away (dang!) so I couldn't test whether it's any better than the others for keeping her dry.

Some of the env friendly disps use crystals - but there are different kind of crystals - think the long chain crystals (have techy name) are used in some. Best way to find out is to cut one in half, put in tub and pour water over it.

Nature babies definitely DO have crystals under all that papery pulp! but still better than pampers/huggies

Very few of them don't have the crystals

I think it is a really difficult concept to get round, the wet skin thing though. It definitely took me a while. If you think about it, you'll have been absorbing (no pun intended) the adverts of disposable manufacturers your whole life "stay drier longer", "our driest ever nappy", dry bottoms are happy bottoms" ad nauseum.

Thing is, I don't think this is actually a problem. Urine is sterile - it's when it comes into contact with poo that it can cause a problem. As has been mentioned, there is a school of thought that thinks disposables actually dry out the skin, and the reason you get so long out of the disposables is the synthetic gel, no two ways about it and I'm really not too happy about that stuff being next to my baby's genitals.

Ds is a bit older but I change nappies around every 4/5 hours unless he's done a poo. He's had no nappy rash and stays happily asleep at night with a wet nappy.

There is only one eco sposie, and as far as I know NO conventional sposies without gel crystals, and that's Tushies. They're paper pulp only and very bulky. I am not keen on them.

Most eco sposies have a mix of starch based crystals (super absorbant polymer - SAP) and regular SAP which is petrochemical based. Starch based is more eco friendly in production plus it breaks down afterwards. Petrochemical based is not so good.

Mainly the advantages of eco sposies are (with proportion differences between brands):

• Less SAP overall, and a high proportion of starch SAP which is better for the environment and probably better for baby (no testing done on this product which is bizarre)
• Reduced or no added chemcials eg deodorants which can be irritating to skin and are un-eco-friendly
• Usually bleached with oxygen rather than chlorine which is better for the environment. Even better is Moltex which are unbleached.
• Higher bio-potential, eg Moltex is around 80% biodegradeable whereas Pampers is around 30%.

Nature Babies are also around 80% bio-degradeable with less SAP, and they are oxy bleached. Overall, Moltex are more bio because the wrapper is compostable (the most bio of all bio plastics - not all bio plastics are the same but that's a whole new nest of ants).

Going on to Sponge's issue of having to change more often. This is a valid point - ie that it should be mentioned by nappy sellers - however actually it is an interesting point of debate.

All HVs will tell you to change your baby as soon as they've passed urine or faeces. This is because although the nappy may feel dry, bacteria, viruses and funguses are immediately able to breed and grow in a lovely warm, damp place. Just because conventional sposies may feel dry doesn't mean they are, you see.

So, using cloth makes it easier to see whether your baby is ready to be changed and therefore you can keep her skin healthier.

Of course, if your child is getting soaked within a couple of hours it is disheartening and frustrating. The answer is to trial boosting - usually an extra booster will do the trick and often it goes in cycles - she'll be fine for ages and then suddenly go through a heavy wetting phase.

Do stick at it! And if you, or anyone, is interested in a trial of new super-boosters please let me know via my email address.

Emma

PS Octo - yes, could you email me to let me know how you got on? Ta :-) Oh and yes, there are two Bambinex sizes.

Actually, wet skin is overstating it if you use fleece liners. Moist skin. Lovely, moist, healthy skin