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Breastfeeding and drinking alcohol

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livingthedream2 · 15/02/2019 18:44

How many drinks would you have and how long after would you consider it safe to feed?
I will have a glass of wine and feed but I'm going out tomorrow night and would like to drink more. He doesn't wake until 3 which will be at least 4 hours after my last possible drink.
He's awful at taking a bottle and has to be starving so it isn't an option during the night.
I've read so many conflicting things. What is everyone's experience?

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MissMalice · 15/02/2019 18:46

In terms of it passing through to your milk, you would be comatose before it affected your baby. The bigger risk is being drunk in care of a child.

Sexnotgender · 15/02/2019 18:47

Breastfeeding consultant told us that your body metabolises alcohol out of your milk at the same rate it does your blood.
She said if you’re safe to drive you’re safe to feed.

pinkgloves · 15/02/2019 18:47

You're more of a risk being drunk before the alcohol in your milk is a risk.

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7salmonswimming · 15/02/2019 18:47

I never thought, during my breastfeeding months, "I'm going out tomorrow and would like to drink so much alcohol that I need to consider whether it's compatible with breastfeeding".

Mostly that's because I was a lightweight. One large or two small glasses over the course of an evening would have been enough, and would have done no damage.

How much are you planning on drinking?

pinkgloves · 15/02/2019 18:48

What I mean is, you're a risk because you're too drunk to care for your baby before the milk is.

It's pretty basic science.

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 15/02/2019 18:48

I didn't drink much at all while breastfeeding as always felt the risk-however minimal was too much for me personally.

I think the odd glass ok but cautious about more. Can you express a bit to have some in reserve? then express the milk after drinking and not use?

do you mean two glasses of wine with a meal or tequila shots?

Spaceman101 · 15/02/2019 18:49

Drink as much as you like it won't affect your breast milk. Just make sure you can look after your baby or that you have help. Obviously no bed sharing as this would be extremely dangerous.

WinkysTeatowel · 15/02/2019 18:49

You might find this article useful.
A few drinks should be fine, my line is that I want to be sober enough to look after my baby while I'm feeding her.

Sexnotgender · 15/02/2019 18:50

There’s no need to express and dump your milk. That’s outdated advice.

pinkgloves · 15/02/2019 18:51

It's outdated advice that sadly many medical professionals are still spouting.

livingthedream2 · 15/02/2019 18:52

I'm not planning on getting slaughtered and definitely no shots!
It's a close friend's birthday party and I'd like to let my hair down a bit that's all. I'm well aware we will still be up at 6:30!

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mumsiedarlingrevolta · 15/02/2019 18:54

fair enough as my youngest DC is 18 Blush
but at the time it was the prevailing medical advice-

I always felt if something went wrong with DC I would think it was my fault so for me I would rather not

northernsouljunket · 15/02/2019 18:59

@7salmonswimming Just because you never thought something it doesn’t mean others won’t or make them wrong for doing so. I regularly think about the fact I would like to be able to drink a bit more!

My understanding from all the more recent studies is that the amount of alcohol that passes through is minimal. The concern is more around parents getting drunk and then not being able to safely care for their child.

If I knew I had 4 hrs until the next feed, I would feel ok drinking more than a glass- with no real concern. But that’s me!

youwannapizzame · 15/02/2019 20:39

Breastfeeding consultant told us that your body metabolises alcohol out of your milk at the same rate it does your blood.
She said if you’re safe to drive you’re safe to feed.

I don't like this advice cos I wouldn't feel comfortable driving after any alcohol! I read the science about alcohol/milk and how much goes into the milk and felt confident that I could still drink and bf. Never pumped and dumped in my life.

livingthedream2 · 15/02/2019 20:56

I am not planning on drinking heavily, however I'd like not to be restricted. When my LG was a baby I would have one or two but I weaned her at 6mths and she always took a bottle. This little guy has other ideas! I really want to give up breastfeeding next month but he isn't on the same page! 🙄

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Loosemoose28 · 15/02/2019 20:56

From Dr Jack Newman : (breastfeeding god/guru)

Alcohol and breastfeeding. Happy holidays all from our breastfeeding clinic in Toronto - www.ibconline.ca .

Since the holidays are imminent, even started, many of you may want to have a couple of alcoholic drinks. You do not have to "pump and dump" (a terrible expression) afterwards and you don't have to wait a certain time after your more recent drink in order to restart breastfeeding. The amount of alcohol that gets into the milk is tiny and will not hurt the baby.

Think of it this way, in most jurisdictions, you are too impaired to drive if you have 0.05% alcohol in your blood. Alcohol appears in the milk in the same concentration as in the blood. Thus if you have 0.05% alcohol in your blood you will have 0.05% alcohol in your milk and as it decreases in your blood, it will decrease in your milk. Even de-alcoholized beer sold in my local store has 0.6% alcohol, more than 10x more than the breastmilk will contain if it contains 0.05% alcohol.

I am not saying it's fine to get falling down drunk because if you are breastfeeding, you must not drop the baby, but the problem is your coordination not the amount of alcohol in the milk.

Also from last year:

The following is from a blog by a mother who tested her milk for alcohol. Not one of those useless kits that you can buy at various stores, but tested at a toxicology laboratory. I will copy from her blog the method she used and the results. I think this puts the lie to the notion that women should not drink while breastfeeding or need to "pump and dump" (an appalling term) after having even one drink. The following is an exact quote from her blog:

Method:
First I took a sample of my milk (about 1 mL) prior to drinking any alcoholic beverage. I expressed the milk mid-nursing session to ensure I had a goodly portion of fore & hind milk. After completing the nursing session, I mixed myself an alcoholic beverage consisting of 2 oz of 80 proof (40%) vodka in 10 oz of soda (Sprite). I proceeded to drink the entire 12 oz in about 30 minutes. About 30 minutes after finishing (1 hour after beginning to drink), I expressed some milk (about 1 mL) and labeled it 'immediate'. I then waited 1 hour and expressed more milk (about 1 mL) and labeled it '2 hours'. In the 2 hours (from the beginning), I did not drink any more alcoholic beverages, drink other beverages, or eat any other foods. Another day, 1/2 of a beer (4.3% alcohol) and 2-6 oz glasses of wine were consumed within 1.5 hours. About an hour from the beginning of the last drink, a milk sample (about 1 mL) was taken. This sample was labeled '1 hour - 3 drinks'. Another sample was taken about an hour after that (2 hours after the beginning of the last drink). This sample was labeled '2 hours - 3 drinks'.

The samples were stored in the refrigerator until processing. An Agilent headspace instrument was used to run the tests. Propanol and ethanol standards were also tested to ensure the instrument was within limits. The instrument is maintained by the KSP Lab Toxicology Section and used in forensic determinations of blood and urine alcohol content.

Results:
The sample labeled as 'immediate' registered as 0.1370 mg/mL which correlates to 0.01370% alcohol in the sample. The sample labeled '2 hours' registered as 0.0000 mg/ml which correlates to 0.0000%. The sample labeled '1 hour - 3 drinks' registered as 0.3749 mg/mL which correlates to 0.03749% alcohol in the sample. The sample labeled '2 hours - 3 drinks' registered as 0.0629 mg/mL which correlates to 0.00629% alcohol in the sample.

Conclusion:
The alcohol content in breast milk immediately after drinking is equivalent to a 0.0274 proof beverage. That's like mixing 1 oz of 80 proof vodka (one shot) with 2919 oz of mixer . By the way, 2919 oz is over 70 liters. Two hours after drinking one (strong) drink the alcohol has disappeared from the sample. Completely harmless to the nursing infant. Drinking about 3 drinks in 1.5 hours resulted in higher numbers, but still negligible amounts of alcohol would be transferred to the child. One hour after imbibing in 3 drinks, the milk was the equivalent of 0.07498 proof beverage. That would be like adding 1 oz of 80 proof vodka (one shot) to 1066 oz of mixer (1066 oz is over 26 liters). Two hours after imbibing in 3 drinks, the milk was 0.01258 proof. That would be like adding 1 oz of 80 proof vodka to 3179 oz of mixer (over almost 80 liters). So, even though an infant has much less body weight, any of these percentage of alcohol in breast milk is unlikely to adversely affect the baby.

livingthedream2 · 15/02/2019 21:20

@Loosemoose28 thank you so much for your reassuring post!
I'm not going to drink to excess but a bit of indulgence after 2 years of restraint.

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Cyw2018 · 15/02/2019 21:25

The biggest risk of breastfeeding and alcohol is if you bedshare it is not safe, other than that of you are sensible then I'm sure you will be fine.

Tinyteatime · 15/02/2019 21:29

you're fine to drink as much as you like as long as you can look after baby and aren’t planning to co sleep drunk. It’s totally ridiculous that they tell breastfeeding women to limit to one drink. The evidence shows that the amount of alcohol is totally negligible as shown above. It’s completely impossible for your breastmilk to contain more than 0.5 % alcohol. Such an unnecessary restriction, and one that I bet wouldn’t be placed if it were men who breastfed! I’ve had some really snotty comments from friends and relatives whilst enjoying a glass of wine (with my Xmas dinner!!) and daring to breastfeed afterwards.

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