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Fathers rights...what about mother's rights?!

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AJB3001 · 11/02/2019 21:14

Okay so here goes, maybe I will get ripped into for this maybe I won't but After recent experiences it's something that has been playing on my mind. Sit down with a brew this is a long post, I don't want to miss anything out or drip feed.

In 2015 at the age of 19 I found myself in a very physically abusive relationship. This man was utterly vile but I thought at the time it was normal love. The abuse got too much to the point where I eventually ran for my life naked on a main road to a police station for fear he was actually going to murder me. He was charged with 7 counts of aggravated domestic assault and I left him for good.
A month later....i found out I was actually 3 months pregnant (huge shock I have POS) i decider I would continue with the pregnancy despite the obvious complications. At 8 months pregnant I was forced to stand in court and give evidence against this man for the assaults. He sat with his girlfriend who listened to him talk about how he had strangled me to the point of passing out and kicked me down the stairs, he laughed in my face as the judge handed him a 2 year suspended sentance. My heart hurt. I worried dearly for his new girlfriend who also had a four week old baby.
My little boy was born beautiful and healthy. And even despite everything I told his father he could have supervised contact, because it was his right.... He came twice. Told me he now had a real family and didn't want to know. Fine I picked myself up dusted myself off and put my all into raising my boy. I met a loving and amazing man who took on my son despite the baggage I had. A year later I had a call from an unknown number. It was his girlfriend. He had attacked her and gotten arrested....several times. My heart hurt for this girl knowing the pain she must have been feeling but at the same time I wanted to shake her because she sat and listened in court and she still put herself in that position.
Afew weeks later she had taken him back. At this point my son hasn't seen him since he was 10 days old and at this point was 15 months. Another phone call.... He not only attacked her this time....he threatened to murder her 18 month old baby. He trashed the house and held a pillow over the babies face, didn't kill her but sure came close. He was arrested and this time was charged with affray, threats to kill and assaulting an infant with intent. He was given 36 months in prison. He served 16 months. When he got out I received a letter from a solicitors claiming he now wants access to his son. I complied and let him take me to court. The case was dismissed on the grounds of him being a danger. My son has ASD and doesn't adapt well to change. Now here is where I am starting to have an issue with the system.
It was dismissed..... until he has completed 30 anger management sessions....because it is his right.
This man has not seen my now 3 years old son since he was 10 days old. He has almost killed an 18 month old baby and battered and heated me and another woman black and blue. And it is his RIGHT to see his son?!
He has never paid a penny towards his upbringing. Hasn't been around when he was given the chance. Went to anger management after I had taken him to court and that never made a difference?! But again it is his right?!
What about my right as a mother. My right to say no? I know what is best for my son and it sure as hell is not him. He is not capable of change and some people never are. Fathers rights? Utter bollocks. Mothers deserve a say too! I will fight it to the end. Not a chance.

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goldengummybear · 11/02/2019 21:20

ThanksThanks You and your son deserve so much better from the legal system. Stay strong. ThanksThanksThanks

Aprilshowersarecomingsoon · 11/02/2019 21:25

It might help your case if your dc knew the half sibling. Ex could use this as an excuse to see both dc - so they can have a relationship with each other. If they already had one he would have no case to use that.
I kept my ex away from my dc when he tried similar tactics in court.

TortoiseLettuce · 11/02/2019 21:25

Oh my. In this situation I’d run. He’s attempted to murder a child - what’s to say he won’t try to murder your son? (and possibly succeed)

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 11/02/2019 21:32

OP it isn’t actually his right to see his son. It is his right to apply for contact with his child but that contact I see the child’s right and for the child’s benefit. Your Ex has no right to see him, the child has the right to contact with husband father BUT in your shoes I would fight this all the way. This man is a danger to your child. Get the best solicitor you can afford.

april I don’t think the other child is the exes baby.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 11/02/2019 21:34

It was dismissed..... until he has completed 30 anger management sessions.

This isn’t right. It was either dismissed or an order was made that he attend the anger management. Which is it?

AJB3001 · 11/02/2019 22:05

The other child wasn't his child
And the court dismissed it but welcomed him to reapply once he had completed anger management. It's beyond a joke and the point I was making was that as much as I believe every child should know who their parents are is that any parent in my situation whether it's mum or dad who is the sole care should have way more right to stand up in court and absolutely refuse this bollocks.

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TortoiseLettuce · 11/02/2019 22:17

The other child wasn't his child

Why is this relevant? He served time for attempting to murder a child. He should not be permitted further contact with children. Especially not unsupervised. I’d do literally anything to avoid leaving my child alone with him, even if I had to run off to Russia or something.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 11/02/2019 22:20

Why is this relevant?

OP was replying to april who thought the other child was her child’s sibling.

should have way more right to stand up in court and absolutely refuse this bollocks.

You do have that right.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 11/02/2019 22:21

OP in your shoes I would wait for him to complete anger management. I would move now. Change my name, number etc. Move far away. Disappear.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 11/02/2019 22:22

wouldnt wait

Racecardriver · 11/02/2019 22:23

Please don’t make this a father’s rights vs mothers rights thing. Mothers can also be abusive arseholes. The courts are there the protect a child’s rights to family life. If he reapplies then go back to court with good evidence that it is contrary to yours son’s interests. Also consider the strategic uses of requests for child maintenance.

RandomMess · 11/02/2019 22:24

As a slight aside.

What about the rights of the child? The right to be safe and protected from abusive adults Angry the right to not be forced into meeting a stranger at a contact centre that will likely flit in And out of their life badmouthing their main (or only) parent...

BlahXXBlah · 11/02/2019 22:27

There's no way that guy is going to THIRTY anger management sessions, I reckon you can put that concern out of mind for a long while yet OP.

AJB3001 · 11/02/2019 22:31

As said in my previous post whether it's a mother or a father it doesn't bother me which it is but when the situation is like this one I believe the sole care should be the one who is listened to here. I know what is best for my son, aposed to somebody who has spent the the entirety of his son's life either on suspended sentance for battering women or in prison for again further assaults and threatening to murder a child

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