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Ahhh naughty toddler.

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Staceface87 · 07/02/2019 14:31

Help me please!! My little girl is soon to be 3 (26th feb) and for some time now we've been struggling with her behaviour. She never - and I mean never - Does as she's asked without having to force her or bribe her to do it. I feel we've tried everything. Naughty step/corner was a game to her, she would quite often put herself there or if I had put her there she would constantly come out laughing after a few seconds. I tried returning her over and over for up to an hour one day but by the end she had forgotten what she had done wrong. Reward chart she didn't care a less and would just rip her stickers off, we never got past having more than 2. Sending her to her room and removing all toys she still doesn't care and will spend ages just jumping up and down on her bed. This normally finishes up with her falling off and me having to go in to her. I really don't like smacking children and don't want to take this approach but most days she has me in tears by always disobeying the simplest requests, hitting out and generally finding everything funny. I've tried remaining calm with her too but then it's as though she feels that she can carry on the naughty behaviour and mummy doesn't do anything.

I'm really struggling now and just do not know what else I can do with her. Even my mum has commented on her behaviour and she normally thinks the sun shines put of her backside and can do no wrong.

Please help me get some control back

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spinabifidamom · 12/02/2019 17:16

The grey rock technique works well for our family. I’m going to have to check out that book. Can you find it at the library or not? How much does it cost to buy?
Please share any other effective techniques. I’m kind of at a wits end here. We were playing a family poker night a few days ago and the twins were stressed. I had to take them out to calm them down.

LuluJakey1 · 12/02/2019 17:27

I have a 22 month old DD who has become a drama queen extraordinaire in the last month. This morning she had a sobbing tantrum face down on the floor because she did not want to eat her banana. I just took it away and left her to it while I loaded the dishwasher. By the time I had finished she was standing next to me saying 'nanana' and holding her fingers up to show it was gone - as if she had done something good Grin

MrsTerryPratcett · 12/02/2019 17:45

Please share any other effective techniques. I’m kind of at a wits end here. We were playing a family poker night a few days ago and the twins were stressed. I had to take them out to calm them down.

What I do when I'm being my best self is:

First examine my expectations. Is this something my child can do easily. Is it a challenge for her, and therefore I need to be more understanding. Is it age appropriate? If it isn't, she might get bored or stressed.

Second I know her. So for example mine is VERY fast approach. She isn't stressed by new things or people, she adapts quickly. But she is bored very easily and can't sit still without effort. Every child is different and mine will fly to a new country without stress but would be extremely stressed at a sit-down formal dinner. Others will melt down at change but sit and colour for hours.

Third antecedents. Is she hungry, thirsty, tired, stressed, anything else going on?

All of those are on me. If I don't manage those it's not her behaviour, it's my crappy parenting. Asking children to do things they can't do is not going to work.

Then and only then do we work on her behaviour. With thanks for 'good' behaviour, natural consequences for 'bad' behaviour and focusing on a supportive, empathetic relationship with the child. Trying to have her want to do the right thing because it's right, not because of fear, sanction or anything else.

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BumboBaggins · 12/02/2019 21:04

Just wanted to say, I could have written your post OP and sympathise entirely. Every single thing with my DD (also almost 3) is a battle, often a physical one because it’s the only way I can end up getting things done (getting dressed, brushing teeth etc). I’m quite quite convinced that a lot of it is nothing much to do with my parenting particularly and an awful lot to do with personality, which happens to be that she JUST DOESNT LIKE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO 😆 It’s bloody hard. What do you actually do when your child won’t brush their teeth, put their coat on, removed their shoes, won’t say sorry to their sibling etc etc? I just keep ploughing on with positive treatment of good behaviour and calm but stern admonishment of bad behaviour in the hope that if I repeat WE DONT HIT often enough, it might eventually get through.... So no good advice but I’m right there with you on the definitely a shit mother thing. It’s not an easy age but particularly so when you have extremely “strong willed” children!

Movingtoplanetclanger · 12/02/2019 21:30

My 3 year old drives me insane, so high energy, doesn’t listen, talks back terrible with food etc.

I’m trying to be patient (not easy), pick my battles and ride it out till he’s a bit older. Some people might think I’m being too lenient, my mum thinks I’m being too harsh most of the time 🤷‍♀️.

Just do what you can to get by Cake Brew Wine.

I think smug gits people with well behaved toddlers are just lucky and hope it comes back to bite them on the arse when their kids are teenagers

MrsTerryPratcett · 12/02/2019 22:00

I think smug gits people with well behaved toddlers are just lucky and hope it comes back to bite them on the arse when their kids are teenagers

My friend's DH, who used to tell me how to parent because his first was so well behaved, had three DC. The third was (I love her dearly) a devil child. Screamed from birth through her terrible 3s.

Rachaeljane31 · 12/02/2019 23:21

Hi

I have a 2 year old son, nearly 3 who is really badly behaved which I believe possibly autism as I already have 2 who has autism.

My 2 year old, is awful most days, he doesn’t sleep much at night, he wakes up around 2-4 times every night.
In the day, well I’m not sure where to start.

He will get up in the morning, he will moan for the tele to be put on, I do this and he watches YouTube on the tele, he has a obsession with cars so he watches toy cars. He gets bored quickly he will moan after 3 minutes wanting another video on, he will do this non stop literally every 3 - 5 minutes. I say to myself I am safe to quickly do something I have 5 minutes before he wants another video on.

He eats wood, he will eat through my dining table, chairs, my daughters toy cooker. If I am doing washing, going to the toilet whenever my back is turned he is eating wood.

He also hurts animals, I have 1 cat and 1 puppy, he will hit the puppy in the head with you cars, he hits him in the head with his hand, he squeezes him, I have to supervise now at all times.

He will hurt my daughter, he will go up to her and hit her in the head with toys, he bites her in her back, so hard he bruises her and cuts the skin.

He won’t do as he’s told, when asked to do something, for example put the toys away he will say no, he will toilet around the house, he will go into my dining room stand there and wee on the carpet. He takes off his nappy, then will poo on his trousers and goes mad when I need to change him and clean him up.

I also have trouble with the bath, he rather the water goes out the bath and likes to flood the floors.

I don’t have time for myself, I don’t remember the last time I had 1 hour a week to myself, my other son has autism and needs a lot of my time, I am up around 20 hours a day, I survive on 3-4 hours sleep a day. My eldest son who is 14 also has autism, his mental state is severe and I am constantly having to deal with the police, his school on a daily basis.

I also am at my wits end and I think I am going to have to go down the same road I did with my other 2, staring off with taking him to the doctors.

Just another thing my son does as well, he likes to eat mud if he can get away with it. He also doesn’t eat our food that well, lives on milk mainly. I cook him 3 meals a day, I am lucky if he has a mouth full but likes to rub it over the furniture. He also won’t sit to the table and eat his food.

He also sees no danger, refuses to hold my hand while out, he doesn’t like to be strapped down in a car seat he goes mad, cries and doesn’t give in.

I am so stressed out as well it’s the hardest job in the world being a mum.

PinaColada1 · 12/02/2019 23:41

I’d say if it is this many battles - find a good parenting course.

There’s so much you can do to turn this around, but it takes a huge step back and you both seeing what you are doing - frustrating as it is, it’s you both as parents that will need to change not your child.

PinaColada1 · 12/02/2019 23:46

@rachael queue up videos for him on a playlist. It’s easy to do on YouTube. You can get kidsyoutube too.

He’s hurting his sister so it’s serious. I’d be onto to your GP and anyone who will listen about this. Local child centers. You must protect yoir child. Never leave them alone. If you can, pay for even a once off consultation with a good behavioural Psychologist specializing in problem behaviour.

MiGi777 · 13/02/2019 04:40

There's a brilliant book called Toddler Taming by Dr Christopher Green, I think it's brilliant anyway-could be worth a read.

speakout · 13/02/2019 06:42

I agree about a positive approach.

I have never punished.

Think more positively- use humour, song, give choices and cuddles, I don't do rewards or sticker charts either.

And absolutely work on your relationship.
Make yorself irrestisable company.

I don't stick labels on children whether that's good or bad- commenting on behaviour and achievements " You were a real help loading the washing machine/gooming the dog. We got that job really quickly/look how smart the dog is.

Give every opportunity for success and allow the child to take the best course of action- it is more likely to be repeated.
And allows a child to see himeslf in a positive light.

ERS25 · 13/02/2019 10:24

I've read a few post the posts here, I'm struggling with my 2.5 year olds behaviour, but its is very hit and miss, some weeks she is fine and I can deal with the behaviour as it isn't too bad. And then we will have weeks and weeks of screaming, my neighbours must think I hate her and just scream at her all the time, but it's not all the time, I try to stay calm but it isn't always easy.

I have been reading some Gentle Parenting books, like yourself, I don't smack, and I don't like the idea of smacking. I feel like it would just encourage my LO to smack and she doesn't smack all the often at the minute, so I am thankful for that. But she does throw herself on the floor and scream non stop.

For me I think I need to be consistent but it's sometimes hard to not get fed up and shout back, I always give two options, and like someone else has said, I use the, if you don't walk yourself upstairs then I will carry you, which would be like? and sometimes she walks, sometimes she carrys on screaming while I carry her upstairs, I let her know that when she has calmed down a little then she can have hugs, not fully calmed down but when she is at a point it is no longer screaming at me then I am happy to help her calm down, but sometimes she doesn't want me to touch her and will just run away from me.

The other night she was having a huge tantrum, we went upstairs as it was bedtime, I shut the baby gate, popped her on the hallway (it's very small upstairs) and I went to put something in my bedroom, the next thing I hear the gate give-way and she has fallen down the full length of the stairs, I think during her paddy she has run to the babygate and thrown herself against it, she is fine but has some nasty bruises on her legs. So that was a nightmare night, I was shaking after. But that is an example of a time when she didn't calm down. (before the fall) and I just had to take her upstairs for bed (We usually do this, this is the first time the gate have given way).

Sometimes I have to write off my evening, and just go to bed I am so exhausted. I sometimes feel at my wits end, and I just feel like I can't do it anymore, I know I can, but I just feel like I've had enough. I wish I could help you more, but I always feel it is nice to know your child isn't the only one who is acting like a devil ha.

It seems like a lot of people here have given some good tips and tips i've been using, but I think its consistency too, so it might not work fully for a week, 2 weeks or 3 weeks but if you keep it consistent then they will learn better, they will still have episodes but hopefully (I am currently hoping this ha) they will become less frequent.

Also as a side note on the sticker chart, I was reading as part of the Gentle Parenting Book that rewards don't have a positive impact long term and the child will keep expecting more and more but then they will lose interest. I'm potty training and we aren't doing stickers or anything, she gets some praise but not over and beyond and now she is really good with it and doesn't expect a sticker or anything.
Sometimes I do fall and do the bribe/reward thing, because I know you can just get fed up and you just need to do what ever you need to do, but where I can I try and stay away from rewards.

Though I did go through a phase where my LO refused to sit in her car seat after nursery and I started bribing her with marshmallows to sit in her car seat after nursery and then I was glad when they had all gone because then I had to start saying, sorry all gone and showing her the empty tub, now she doesn't expect anything, luckily, as I thought I was going to be dealing with that forever, having to have snacks in the car haha.

Thistledew · 13/02/2019 10:32

I would also recommend the "How to talk ..." book mentioned above.

My DS (2 1/2) is also extremely strong willed, fiercely independent and full of energy. Things that work for us:

Picking battles: Safety and kindness are non-negotiable and I focus my efforts on getting him to comply with anything that meets these two issues. Anything else - it's not a case of giving in but of letting him experience natural consequences of not doing what I ask.

Reason: It might not apply to all DC but my DS is deeply logical and if I can give him an (appropriately simple) explanation of why I want him to do something he will often drop his resistance. I find that he responds much better if I engage him with decisions and options rather than just saying what I do or don't want him to do without notice.

Playfulness: it helps both of us to defuse a situation of conflict if I can turn it into something silly. He is normally very good at teeth cleaning but on days he is resisting I will do something silly like hold him upside down on my lap to clean them and brush his toes too. Or if he is messing about and not cooperating with getting dressed then I will try to put his socks on his hands and his pants on his head. If he is wanting to get down from the table rather than sit and eat I will threaten to steal his food if he leaves it unattended. Anything to make him laugh and so that we are having fun together rather than being in opposition.

Lots of positive comment: praising good behaviour and remembering to do so regularly. Praising the behaviour rather than the child "Good eating. Is your tummy happy now? That will make you grow up big and strong". "Thank you for putting your shoes and coat on so quickly. That was super helpful for mummy. Good job."

howmanyyears · 13/02/2019 15:35

My 3 year old is exactly the same! Everything is a battle from the minute we wake up until the minute he finally goes to sleep.

He attends a school setting and will be moving to a new class soon so between us and school, we are hoping more challenges ahead will distract him from the behaviour we are currently getting. I do believe its just another regressive stage and it will all soon be over..... hopefully!

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