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help me be better parent to my 3 year old after new baby

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lookingouttosea · 29/01/2019 15:57

I'm worried that my relationship with 3 year old daughter is going downhill.
First a bit of background because I think its relevant. I got pregnant early last year and had severe morning sickness plus a host of other ailments which meant I was exhausted and sick all day every day. I went from being a fun, playful and engaged mother to being absent, distracted and tired. I tried, but as she gained energy I lost energy, and found I couldn't keep up with her. I resorted to a lot of Cbeebies and ipad and Dad took over entertaining her on day's he wasn't working.

I developed preeclampsia towards end of pregnancy and was admitted to hospital for much of the last 5/6 weeks. DD1 stayed with dad and other close relatives and was fine with it, seemed in good form. We had coslept until about 6 months into my pregnancy when she moved, relatively seamlessly, into her own room. She still woke up at night but dad tended to her during the time I wasn't there.

I had the baby nearly a month ago and returned home. DS1 has been fantastic with new baby and has been overall in good form again despite a lot of upheaval and the understandable turmoil of a new sibling. She still starts the night in her own room but with dad back to work she comes into me when she wakes during the night. This could be up to five or six times a night, and this has always been the case. She's never been a "good" sleeper and rarely would sleep 8 hours uninterrupted. When she wakes up it could be for any reason from wanting to get up and watch cartoons at 3am to wanting a bottle, a change of nappy (she's not night trained) or just wanting to get me up to play. Her sleep, or lack of, dominates the house and we've tried different routines, dropping naps, taking away bottles, Groclock, different sleeping arrangements including an extra bed in my room, whatever. Dad can't do these night shifts with DD1 when he's working because of a long commute and long hours.
So as it is I'm finding my sleep disrupted several times a night not by my newborn (who despite cluster feeding at least returns to sleep after a feed) but by my preschooler who comes into my bed, refuses to go back to her own room (I don't want to force her either because I'm conscious of her feeling rejected with new baby etc), and takes up to an hour to settle back to sleep, meanwhile she wakes the baby and I end up with no rest. Again, this is no different from pre-baby - she has always woken - but I'm aware of the emotions at play during this time. I'm struggling to hold back feelings of resentment from being tired not as a result of having a newborn, being on medication or recovering from a section but because DD1 can't sleep through the night.
I also struggle to entertain her during the day. She is amazing, bright and driven but hugely energetic and persistent. She goes to preschool but its not long enough, I'm exhausted after 30 minutes with her. I need to have a list of activities planned to get through the day.
Sorry about the long post. I want to be a healthier, more energetic and fun person for my daughter like I used to be (kicking football around the park, being engaged) but I just fobb her off while half staring at my phone. I'm always tired. I can't take her out because I'm not back driving and because she often refuses to continue walking (or scooting, on buggy board) if we go out with the pram and I can't physically drag her away I am sort of housebound.
I want to be more "mindful", enjoy her like I used to instead of counting down the minutes until she's at preschool. If she slept it would help because I'd be less tired...but...
Today I found her just randomly crying, like real tears not her usual whiny cry. I asked her what was wrong and she said "I wish daddy was here, I'm sad when it's just you and me". It broke my heart! She definitely picks up on my mood and general lack of enthusiasm.
Anyway, any advice much appreciated. Thank you

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Huntawaymama · 29/01/2019 17:25

That must have been heartbreaking for you her saying that. Sorry you're having a tough time

First off, are you really just tired or could it be more? Where is your husband during the night?

I have a 3yo and 7m old, obviously I'll say the said thing "it'll get better". It's pretty tough though. My 3yo was so used to us being best buddies, just me and her. She loves her sister though. I've just came home from.nursery and spent 68 mins playing with dd1s paw patrol toys on the floor, how do I know it's 68mins, because I timed it because the last few nights she's been upset that I never play with her on an evening anymore and tbh I thought I was going crazy, turns out she just doesn't realise how long I spend playing, it's cool though she's 3. They know how to make you hurt though, how mature is your eldest? Have you considered a gro clock? By 3 I honestly think she should understand that she has to stay in her bed (bar nightmares/need a wee) but I would say she's missing you and will be jealous of baby being in with you. We used a gro clock at 2 and it worked wonders for our terrible sleeper

Put your phone away, hoesntly just put it in another room. Youll never engage properly if youre on it be strict with yourself

Have you a garden? Before Xmas I'd put baby in the pushchair and play with dd1 in the garden and do gardening with her, they love fresh air, baby was happy as Larry looking at the trees
Have you got colouring books and crafty things? Easy to do with baby on your lap

It will get better, sorry if I've cross posted with anyone, I started writing during one feed and finished writing with the post with the next feed

lookingouttosea · 29/01/2019 18:58

Thanks Huntawaymamma. Yes I am tired, very tired and I hope its nothing more as I do seem to have lost some of my joi de vivre (or however you spell it!). I'm hoping this will get better as I get more rest...if I can rest. Also it being winter and weather being awful its hard to get out even if I could manage it physically. What passes for a garden is soaking wet, mucky, cold and grim at the moment but that will hopefully also get better. I just feel I'm getting through life when my 3 year old is around rather than enjoying the experience...I do try and do activities but I find them endless. I look at the clock and its still 8 hours until my husband comes home and I still have to find 100 ways to entertain her. I try to arrange for anyone to visit or friends of hers from preschool to call over because I know she' must be bored stuck inside with me all the time but its difficult - I don't know many people and kids/parents have their own schedules. If she slept at night I might be better able...but she never has. Always a very live wire. I got a Groclock but so far it hasn't worked in keeping her in her own room for any longer. She could wake up any time from an hour after bedtime (so, 9pm/10pm) so it means husband and I are under pressure to get to bed in the evening if we want half a chance of getting any sleep. Since he gets home at 830 that leaves zero time to ourselves on work days. Sorry...anyway I'm rambling...I just want to enjoy this and I'm afraid to say I don't think I do. I'm supposed to relish every painting session or playing bricks but I'm tired and bored. Is this normal?

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roley · 29/01/2019 19:13

First of all congratulations!!!
And second of all yes I think it's totally normal to feel like this! I have a now 4 month old and 2.4 month old toddler.
When my baby was born in September it definitely took some time to find a new normal. It's really hard and I have to say I had a straight forward pregnancy and labour.. and still found it hard.

You are doing amazingly well.. it's been a matter of weeks so you'll be still recovering physically and dealing with the hormones as well as the baby and the toddler.

I really really know what you're saying about your husband working and so needing sleep, however, for a few more weeks at least I think he needs to help out a bit with your toddler in the night. I don't have answers for making her sleep/stay in bed but it just cannot be all down to you, especially as you're still recovering.

Please be assured things do get better and you'll get your spark back to play with your toddler and enjoy it but it's ok to not be feeling it right now! Call on all the support you can get, and talk to your DH.. a few more weeks and things will be much brighter.

Ps... get some B vitamins to help boost your energy

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roley · 29/01/2019 19:14

2.4 YEAR old toddler (not month) Confused

TigerQuoll · 30/01/2019 11:33

@roley I thought you meant 24 month :)

OP, what do you do when she gets up and her groclock says it is still night? Could your DH take a few days off work to work with you during the night for a few days + weekend to properly train her to use the groclock (and give you a few nights' rest to recharge your batteries)? There's probably lots of threads on this forum about how people got their toddlers to stop waking up in the night, what sort of reward charts worked or didn't, etc.

Also do your or your DHs parents or siblings live nearby? Could you get her habituated to their place with the view to eventually give her sleepovers once a week or so to give you a regular nights break?

lookingouttosea · 30/01/2019 14:34

Roley - thank you. Oh does the night shift with her when he's not working which is half the time because he works shift/long hours. So I do get some break. Maybe I'm expecting too much too quickly. Its just a weird feeling, me and DD1 were so close...did everything together...and now its changed, perhaps forever who knows. She is distant with me now, doesn't want hugs very often and only wants to hold the baby all the time (she's super excited about new sister, which I suppose is a good thing). Today though dad was here and she fell down and hurt her knee outside in the snow...and came to me for comfort, which is a development!

Tigerquoll - thanks for the reply. I have in-laws about half an hours drive away and DD1 spends a reasonable amount of time out there. Loves it because she's very sociable and she has cousins coming and going/gets doted on by granny etc. This has been invaluable in terms of me getting some rest with the baby. However they're also busy with other commitments so I try not to impose too much. Then I also thought that more time away from me might not help us get back to "bonding", as in I feel I'm always trying to get away from her...just because she's so energetic and demanding. I actually dont know how people deal with 3 year olds all day every day...you'd want the patience of a saint and the stamina of some kind of endurance athlete! If they have other kids to play with its probably easier. All I want to do is watch TV and sleep. We''ll keep working on the Groclock...at the moment she understands it fine but ignores it completely. Will check out other forums on night waking too. She was up at 1am, 3am, 5am and up finally at 8am last night...

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ez345 · 04/02/2019 11:59

Have you got any photos to show your toddler that she used to sleep in your room too? My daughter is 3 and I have an 8 month old aswell, and my daughter loves looking back at photos to see what she used/did as a baby that’s the same as her new sibling.

My daughter is at preschool as she too needs constant attention and activity. I could have written this post when my baby was 2 months old. It does get better I promise.

My daughter also loves to help, such as passing me nappies and wipes for the baby, toys etc. I also used to put out colouring on the dining room table ready for her to do when she woke up, and also things like Lego duplo to do during the day. This was easy enough for me to help whilst feeding baby.

I don’t know what to suggest for the night waking, we did have a baby gate on her room as she kept coming downstairs, and she learnt that once the babygate was shut it was bedtime and she had to stay asleep.

I hope it gets easier for you soon. The tiredness will ease soon OP.

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