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DD (5yo) insists that she doesn't love me

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rosili · 24/12/2018 18:10

I have a 5yo daughter, we have a good relationship but there are stormy moments and I do occasionally lose it somewhat and get angry (it's getting better, I'm working REALLY hard at changing my getting triggered and defaulting into anger, it's already a lot less than it was).
The past few weeks she's been saying, when I put her to bed, that she doesn't love me, and that I'm not allowed to cuddle her or kiss her. Sometimes really labouring the point, saying that she loves her daddy, all her friends, and that she doesn't love me and one boy in her class she doesn't get on with! It's nothing to do with anything in the heat of the moment, like when I deny her something. I asked her at some point why she didn't love me anymore and she said that it's because I don't say funny things (ie make her laugh) like her dad does. I asked if she thinks I don't love her if I don't say funny things and she said 'yes, and daddy loves me because he does day funnny things'.
I kind of think this might be a broader thing in that her dad is better at engaging with her whereas I can be a bit aloof, and it's true, I don't engage as much in play and fun as he does.
She seems really determined: the other day we were having a really nice moment, and I kissed her and said, spontaneously, 'I love you!', and she normally would have said it back, but she just kept silent. That's happened a few times.

I'm worried about losing (some of) the connection with her, that this is a symptom of her having put up defense mechanisms due to my anger. As if she's needed to put some distance between me and her... Just when I'm making progress (with a lot of work with a counsellor) towards a better relationship with her...

It's heartbreaking! Anyone who has experience with this, or knows something about child psychology and how it works with defense mechanisms arising?

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woolduvet · 24/12/2018 18:16

Just keep working on your relationship, telling her why you love her, or that you love her for being her.
Agree on things that just you two will do, no daddy for now eg swimming and ice cream.
Don't engage with the I don't love you conversations, just say I love you loads and end it.
Good luck

Cherries101 · 24/12/2018 18:17

As a parent we often have to step out of our comfort zone. Being aloof is not an excuse — you have to pretend. Otherwise she will get all of her affection from her dad and if you break up for any reason she won’t want to live with you (my ds is similar to you and her dd, my dn, now lives with me as a result).

HollowTalk · 24/12/2018 18:18

I wouldn't go overboard on saying you love her, but I would go overboard on showing her that you do. Show her that you like her, you're always so happy to see her, that you think she's great and fantastic company, and that you think she's the best girl you could have had.

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Branleuse · 24/12/2018 18:27

Do more nice things with her, just you and her. Try and bring the bond back. It might take time to rebuild your relationship.

crosser62 · 24/12/2018 18:33

I had this.
So every night when tucking my 5 year old in, I would tell him 3 things that had made me laugh or smile or love him that he had done that day.
They love hearing about themselves at that age.
I would ham it up, make it dramatic and extra funny.
Kinda broke the ice of the thing.

Unfortunately by magic, accidentally kisses would fall out onto toes or a teddy or an ear which was of course hilarious.

Just put the fun back in a bit, ignoring the negative language absolutely.
All turned out ok after a couple of weeks.

I get angry, I am a shouty mum. At the end of every day though, it can be softened and we can all end the day with a bit of a giggle and knowing that we all do love each other.

Fucking hard work this parenting lark.

rosili · 24/12/2018 18:44
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EvaHarknessRose · 24/12/2018 18:46

She has realised this gets to you/gets your attention. So yes, maybe when she first said it she was feeling cross/put out, but now she is just revelling in the power it has over you (as any five year old would). The only correct answer is ‘well I will always love you’.

crosser62 · 24/12/2018 18:51

Yeah could be as simple as “remember when you put your shoes on the wrong feet this morning!!” And I’d do a funny walk as if I had shoes on the wrong feet, or “this morning, do you know what?” “ you had sticky up hair like this when you woke up”... then stick hair up in a funny way, but say that you laughed as it was SO funny, just stuff like that.
Mine had behavioural problems so I added in stuff about good behaviour like when I asked him to hang his coat up and he did it beautifully, I was so happy.
Shit like that.

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