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My son 21 seems unwell but refuses to seek help

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ThereMustBeAnAnswer · 27/11/2018 16:34

My son, Charlie, is 21 and spends all day long in his bedroom alone, but after we go to bed he comes downstairs and is in the living room most of the night. Often he sleeps on the sofa and only goes up to his bedroom at about 6 o’clock. He does come down for dinner when we call him but eats very little before rushing back upstairs. Sitting at the dinning table he usually says absolutely nothing, replies to any question or pleasantry with a groan or just silence and mostly has his eyes closed (he has even sat through restaurant meals with his eyes closed). He does eat of course but when nobody is around. He has no friends, his phone does not ring, no one calls round and he almost never goes out. His one hobby is weight lifting and he has bought himself a set of weights and will just occasionally come and start telling me at length about the great Russia, Iranian and Bulgarian exponents, of whom he knows all the champion’s names and achievements. We have sometimes got him to come away on short family holidays but he seems to be tired and sleepy much of the time and has to be persuaded to get off his bed and come out with us all for the day.
His mother and I are prettily happily married, live a settled life and never have anything you could call a row. There have been no traumas in his life and he has had a happy childhood. His sister, 23, is now living and working abroad. They went together to the local primary and then to a good and friendly secondary school. His maths and physics A level teachers both emailed that he had ability but did the least amount of study he could get away with. He got low A level grades and said he would study at home and resit the following year. He didn’t seem to do any studying, just X-boxing and got almost the same results and repeated the exercise the following year. After 24 months he managed to get into university while remaining living at home to do a foundation course in computer science and engineering. He tells us almost nothing at all and we didn’t even know he would actually be going to university until he started leaving the house in the morning and I suspected that his main interest was the student weights gym. In the exams last spring he seems to have done badly and has given up. Even though we are careful not to be judgemental or nosey, when we ask him about college, getting a job, maybe going on Operation Raleigh or what he might want to do in the future he is silent or if pressed will just walk away. He often does not answer even when I say hello.
Apparently, he went to his GP about 2 years ago and said he was depressed and felt hopeless and was referred to CAMHS where he had a consultation but nothing transpired and I only learned of this later. From around age 10 he was always very embarrassed by his relatives when in public. He is secretive and if he is in the living room and I walk in he will usually get up and go to his bedroom after 20 seconds (even though I always ask him to chose any TV programme of his preference etc).
I can’t imagine him ever getting a job, girlfriend, home of his own or anything resembling a happy normal and sociable life! He seems to be in a self-imposed solitary confinement. I am afraid that he may be depressed and at risk of self-harm (or perhaps maybe has some physical medical condition that makes him lethargic and despondent). Basically I have no idea how to help him. I have explained that one day he will have to make an independent life for himself and suggested that he might seek counselling but with literally no reply. If he won’t seek therapy then I can’t see how I (or anyone) can help him: so any advice would be hugely appreciated.

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Staringcoat · 27/11/2018 17:02

Sorry you are going through this op.

He does sound depressed and given his past mh issues, I would definitely be trying to get your son some help. This list of resources might be useful here. It's from an organisation that centres on mh issues in schools but there are some numbers listed that might be of help to you.

It may of course just be that he is lazy and unmotivated, isn't used to taking the initiative ( partly because he has such a comfortable/stable home! ) or it could be that his lack of motivation has contributed to depression or vice versa - or a combination of all the above. By coming down only at night, it sounds as though he wants the freedom to live his own life, without the encumbrant responsibilities of contributing to it. Does he contribute anything to the household financially? Could he manage a small part time job? It might do his self confidence some good.

My nephew went through something similar (but not as extreme) and fwiw I think this age can be more difficult than going through puberty for some, because you are aware that soon you will be confonting the realities of life: getting a job, earning a living, finding out what you want to be, who you are? Its a lot of pressure. Some youngsters can find this a bit too confronting and adopt a head in the sand approach.

I would also be worried by the secretiveness and lack of response. Is there anyone else in the extended family, or a trusted older friend or godparent he might confide in? Could you take him away on an activity holiday one-to-one or on a trip to watch a weight-lifting competition so you can get to know where he is at in a non-confrontational way?

It might be a phase, and lack of confidence, but given the circumstances, I think I would stage some sort of intervention. A question of better safe than sorry perhaps and if he objects, at least it shows him you care. Good luck op.

Staringcoat · 27/11/2018 17:10

Sorry, meant to add, do you have any friends who have raised or who are raising sons of around the same age. Could you seek advice from them?

HollowTalk · 27/11/2018 17:14

That sounds really tough. Does he have any friends at all? Does he communicate with his sister? I can't understand - is he still actually at college?

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buckingfrolicks · 27/11/2018 17:29

My DS had several years from 14 to 20 like that and is finally after enormous pushing and shoving from his DP finally at uni doing what he likes and is showing rudimentary signs of improvement.

It is so incredibly hard I know. You sound very objective and patient. That's good, I think, as an emotional reaction from you may overwhelm him. But I wonder if perhaps you're being abit too absent - have you supported him going back to the GP, finding a counsellor, even calling the Samaritans (he doesn't have to be suicidal to call them, they also do a texting support line). From
What you post you sound almost dispassionate and removed from him and I just wonder if your family dynamic is generally not to address difficulties head on? Have you've talked with him - perhaps a long car drive might be a good context for that, my DS talked most in the car - about his feelings? I hear that he leaves the room but do you calmly go after him and say eg DS we love you and will support you always, we see you hurting and want to understand how you are feeling and what you are thinking so that we can work together to improve things? Kind of thing?

I found Young Minds (on the link from a post above) very kind and helpful to me.

Stay open, patient, show him love. It's incredibly hard and upsetting for you. Good luck.

BlankTimes · 27/11/2018 17:36

I'd go and see his GP, explain you know they can't tell you anything at all about him, but ask them

  1. If there's anything else you can do to help him.
  2. If they can call him into the surgery, some routine check or other then see if they can talk him into getting some help if he has any medical problem, or send him for diagnosis for the debilitating fatigue at least.

Some people think tough love is the only way to manage unmotivated teens and young adults but I think yours does sound as though there's a health issue underlying his behaviour. He could be so fatigued and brain-fogged with it that he cannot summon the strength to help himself.

Would he be happy to take a combined multivitamin and mineral pill with the food you provide for his evening meal? Just that simple step helped a friend of mine who was so overcome with fatigue her existence was bed, loo and telly. It showed results after a couple of months, so it's not an instant fix by any means, nor is it a tale of miraculous recovery, but she felt more like "herself" and seemed a bit brighter, a bit more willing to engage with the family if that makes any sense and now she has a much better outlook. She carries on taking them as she doesn't want to feel so bad again. They are only supermarket own brand combined vitamins and minerals taken as one pill per day, nothing fancy, not expensive at less than £2 per month.

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