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Me and husband disagreeing about how to settle baby

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Fiona83 · 22/11/2018 09:13

We had a newborn who was pretty chilled - she slept through the night from about 4 my baths for a few weeks but gradually her sleeping for worse and worse. She is now 7 months old. I EBF and allow Dd to comfort feed when she needs. My husband works full time often 7 days a week and by his own admission has just let me get in with it - I happily do all the night wakings. Over the last month or so I have been bed sharing in spare room with dd - she always starts off in her cot but usually ended up in with me around 3 am as wouldn’t settle abs just screamed anytime out down. My husband wanted this to stop and for me to come back to our room. Over the last 5 nights I have had next to no sleep - she wakes screams get settled through hugs or feed put down again then wakes within a few minutes and cycle continues - sometimes get a couple hours together around 4. We have also tried letting her just cry for a bit then going into soothe but she just escalated and gets hysterical. On advice if health visitor last night we moved her cot bCk to our room and anytime she woke refused to pick her up or feed her and that tried to settle through reassuring touch. First time she soothed after about half hour but then only slept for an hour. Then she was inconsolable for about 4 hours. Got 4 hours sleep from 2-6 then back to the same so we just got up. I don’t believe you can spoil babies at this age and I don’t let her cry for long periods but I don’t rush to pick her up as soon as she whimpers either. Husband thinks she has been spoilt and is cuddles too much by me and this has led to her behaviours as he calls them. She even fell over this morning while she was sitting playing and knocked her forehead slightly and he thinks that was on purpose. She is also teething and trying to crawl which I think is adding to her unsettled behaviour. Sorry for long message but I have to get it all out. Does anyone else struggle with SO having different opinions about gow to care for baby?

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Fiona83 · 22/11/2018 09:14

4 months not 4 baths

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Just2MoreSeasons · 22/11/2018 09:38

Hmmm, of course you know the baby didn’t hit her forehead on purpose. Is your DH normally a good man? Had much experience with babies -nieces and nephews, younger siblings?
I think there’s a lot of disagreements between partners with young babies. It’s an exhausting job, you’re waiting for a problem to be solved then a new problem starts. You’re both tired etc.
If what he’s suggesting is more work for you in the night, then he has to pull his weight and take the extra work off you imo.
Could you call the health visitor for a home visit so they could have a chat about sleep issues with you DH present?
If you have the funds, there are also sleep consultants that you can hire-some that just do telephone support. I’m wondering if he’d listen better to an ‘expert’ -annoying I know.

Fiona83 · 22/11/2018 09:51

Thanks @just2moreseasons he is a really good man and a loving husband and dad but no doesn’t have experience of babies. He was so annoyed with her screaming last night that he ended up going to spare room and wouldn’t talk to her his morning despite her look My p and smiling at him. It broke
My heart! He has worked In care though and is comparing her to the behaviours of an adult with disabilities and complex needs! I think he just feels
Out of control too and it’s difficult because he can’t seem to ever settle her at the moment she just wants me. I try to listen to his opinions but when I give my own bescause they don’t match his he thinks I’m eaither being defensive, not listening or reading too much online. He thinks his gut is right. My honest feeling is that trying to get her into sleeping correctly as he’s sees it just now is not the right time with teething and crawling etc maybe we could try again in a month and I will keep trying to get her in her cot bit at a certain point if she just wants to lie beside me and feed on and off all night then maybe hat is what she needs just now. We have appt with health visitor today at surgery and he’s coming too so I’m just going to be really honest but I’m afraid it’s going to turn into yet another argument. He seems to think this is all because I’ve spoiled her too much but how can comforting a young baby who is now only
7 months old spoiling her!! Thanks for your advice!

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Micke · 22/11/2018 10:07

I have to go with the idea that you can't spoil babies - I've had only 2, but they were both so different, despite similar care - one more like your daughter, who fed a lot and just sometimes went through phases of being generally discombobulated and just wanting me. Like your daughter, any attempts to leave him to self-sooth just resulted in a hysterical baby. TBH, he was a bit of a pain with this until he was over 3, when something just switched and he became a dream to deal with - no problem putting to bed at all.

The other, the extent of his sleep issues when young was that occasionally he'd go to bed, then wake up a couple of hours later and just not be tired - not upset, just not tired, so he'd sit up with us on the settee and I'd put him back to bed when I was tired and he started yawning.

And we co-slept with both of them, fed on demand, so both of them were 'spoiled' by this yardstick, but both completely different sleep-wise.

Fiona83 · 22/11/2018 12:46

Thanks @Micke that makes me feel nitmso alone and more confident in my gut feeling too! Hoe Fully the health visitor will be impartial and open and not just enforce this controlled crying cause it’s just not me! Xx

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Creatureofthenight · 22/11/2018 13:26

You can’t spoil a baby with cuddles, quite the opposite. 7 month olds are clumsy, of course she didn’t hit her head “on purpose “.
Having a bad sleeper is tough and perhaps he is just working his way through things he thinks will ‘fix it’. But I think if you’re going to try something potentially very distressing like CC then you both need to be in agreement. If you’re happy to do the night wakings I think he should let you get on with comforting your baby as you have been doing.

WinterCoat · 22/11/2018 13:47

He sounds horrible. He wouldn't talk to your baby because she was upset last night? I am concerned about your and your baby's future if this is his attitude now.

BertieBotts · 22/11/2018 14:12

Honestly this is really disturbing. I know babies can be annoying, but it's normal to cope in ways like complaining to your partner/friends about it, changing the words to a nursery rhyme to rude ones as a joke (if they aren't talking yet obv), taking a break at the time of the annoyance, calling your child an affectionate nickname, etc - but continuing to bear a grudge isn't normal, neither is seeing innocuous things as manipulative. Actually him blanking her I would go so far as to say is emotionally abusive behaviour.

You can't spoil a baby with cuddles. If you're doing sleep training then yes you can mess it up by bringing the baby into bed if that's what you're trying to cut out, but that isn't the same thing as general "spoiling" and wouldn't affect other behaviours like clinginess during the day.

It's OK to decide sleep training isn't the right approach right now and to wait and see if things improve on their own, or try again at a later point, or try another approach. You should be able to discuss this. If he won't discuss things that's not a communicative/collaborative approach.

Even if you do decide to sleep train, it doesn't work in one night. He has really unrealistic expectations.

I think you should explain all of these points to the health visitor and see what she says with both of you there. He probably won't start an argument with another person there, and she's not "the internet".

BTW, did he want you to come back to your room because he wants more sex? That's my cynical reading between the lines... (not a HV discussion topic Wink)

Fiona83 · 22/11/2018 15:56

Thanks @Creatureofthenight @WinterCoat and @BertieBotts for your support. We had s really positive meeting and it gave us both the chance to get our opinions listened too and some good advice. I am going back to sleeping in babies room next to cot but won’t skeeo in bed with her but will pick her up for cuddles and feeds if she needs but will also try to settle without picking her up as much as possibly unless she is getting distressed. HV explained how she cannot be spoiled and is also at point where she needs me and is going through teething, huge mental developments and sleep regression. She was very supportive to us both and we have identified tvat problem may also be not feeding enough on solids and to try to get more of a routine. IreLly didn’t mean for husband to come across so bad he is an amazing man husband and father and loves us both to pieces he’s just had a particularly bad night and was at his wits end too and not thinking clearly. Having the impartial support of HV has made a huge difference!!! Haha @BertieBotts I don’t think either of us has any energy for sex!!!!

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WakeUpFromYourDreamAndScream · 22/11/2018 15:59

Your 'D'H sounds like an utter twat. I'd be scared to leave him alone with your baby. He seriously thinks she has the mental capacity at her age to hit her head on purpose to piss him off??? And he wouldn't speak to her because she was upset through the night. He's a cunt. LTB

BewareOfDragons · 22/11/2018 16:12

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks a BABY fell over and bumped their head on purpose for sympathy.

Your husband has completely lost the plot. He's not there most of the time, and he hasn't a clue. You take the lead on baby and tell him how this should be handled, not him.

mindutopia · 22/11/2018 19:53

This all sounds completely developmentally normal for her age. Your dh (and hv) both sound like they have lost the plot. Just do what you have to do to get the most sleep. We have a bit family bed (single and double pushed together, 9 month old and I sleep on the double). We bedshared with our first as well. When it was time, she slept great in her own room, but it made such a difference to keep her with us until then. We both got sleep. We had a dd who grew up relaxed and feeling nurtured and who had her needs met. It worked well all around. But the time between about 6 months and a year is really tough, I think, and especially if you are doing the bulk of the parenting, you need to do what works for you and your husband needs to be supporting you.

TulipsInbloom1 · 22/11/2018 19:55

wouldn’t talk to her his morning

Any man who treats his seven month old like this is not a good father.

Wallsbangers · 22/11/2018 22:47

We had a really tough time with sleep at this stage but it's all developmental and is a phase. My husband just used to move into the spare room at whatever hour so I could pop the baby in bed with me. We just accepted we need to do whatever it takes to get us through this stage. Your husband needs to think about the way he's acting towards you and your child and get some help if he really can't cope.

moita · 23/11/2018 01:27

I think a sleep consultant might be worth the money if you are struggling with this but not until the baby's a bit older. 7 months is still so young.

Your health visitor's first advice of ignoring her and just comforting by touch is awful. I feel for you OP

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