Talk to me about "Lifting " a child at night for a wee... have just put dd to bed for first time without a nappy!!

[Dabbles]

she is nealry 5 , but has always been wet in the morning.. soaking infact! although i think she is weeign in the morning when she wakes up! she is gettign wayyy to big for pull ups and starts school in september so... last drink at 6 (only a few sips of water since then) has had 2 bing wees, one at bath time and one abotu 10 minutes ago... was htinking about lifting ehr about 11ish before i go to bed? will this work??

have put pampers bad sheet thingy down under ehr sheet!

Raise the foot end of her bed 6 inches (couple of Yellow Pages type thing should do it) and see if that helps.

Dd is 6 and still wet at night ... nothing to be ashamed of, imo.

I haven't lifted her because I don't think that training her to wee in her sleep is really what I'm aiming for - quite the opposite, in fact.

Bear in mind that night-time dryness is not something she can control. There is a hormone which suppresses urination overnight, and until that kicks in (any time up until the age of 7) she can't physically control whether she's dry or not.

I know the wigwam, but as i said i think she is just being lazy and just weeign when she is awake, i will try this for a few nights and if i dont get anywhere i will just go back to pull ups for a few months.

so, liftign a 'yeah' or 'neigh'?

WWB is right - lifting means that your DD may end up barely awake and weeing almost unconciously. The hormone is a big part of it too. My DS is 4.5 and still very wet at night too.
If she is weeing in the morning - is she waking and feeling too comfy to get out of bed? Can she get to the toilet easily? Or is she just not waking?.

Apparently 1 in 10 children are still wetting at night at age 5 - most achieve dryness by age 7 or so. After that there are various methods to help.

If she is weeing when she is awake in the morning, then lifting won't help imo.

I really don't think lifting will help - if she's lazy and weeing in bed in the mornings rather than getting up to the toilet, she'll still do that - she'll still need a wee when she wakes.

Chances are she's wet at night because she's just not ready to be dry yet.

Best of luck anyhow.

don't -trains' em to need a wee in the middle of the night.

No point lifting ime. Doesn't make any difference. They become dry at night when they are ready.

We used to lift dd2 at night from around the age of six. She was suffering nappy rash from being in nappies at night and really needed not to be wearing them. It was well worth it to resolve the rash problem. We did this for quite a while, about 8 months I think, and then one night forgot to lift her and she was ok, so after that we didn't lift her anymore and she rarely has accidents, but she was nearly 7 when she became dry at night.

Our eldest was dry at night at 3yrs 8mths, but used to get up in the night for a wee by herself until she was five.

Our third (just turned six) is in the process of going dry, she doesn't want to wear nappies at night, if she does wet then she REALLY wets, but she can do it when she puts her mind to it. She's been dry all week so far....we have her in pants and she has a Hippychick cotton bed protector on top of her normal sheet, they are very absorbent and totally leakproof, and ideal for her as she has eczema so a plastic undersheet would be too hot and sweaty for her.

I would see how she goes without being lifted, but if you do plan on doing it, I used to do it just before I went to bed myself, that way if I found a wet bed, I could get it sorted out rather than being disturbed in the small hours!

We tried this for a while and it made no difference. Ds1 is about to turn 6 and still in night nappies. It drives me mad. Ds2 is about to turn three and just potty trained this week. I have a feeling he will be out of night nappies before his big brother! I sincerely hope that this thing about a hormone needing to kick in is true and that it kicks in sometime soon!

dd is 26 mnths and dry at night, because she is still young she has a bottle before she goes to sleep.
she started being dry about a month ago, but about every 5 nights she would wee, so i just started to 'lift' and she is dry fine at night.
she hasnt weed, and she isnt bursting to go when she wakes up in the morning, so for me it has worked!!

The hormone thing is definitely true, Ilana! The hormone is vasopressin - have a look at this .

Interesting link - thanks. Of all the causes they mention, the only one it could be with my ds1 is the hormone thing. He can hold his wee ages during the day, so it is not a small bladder. We limit drinks before bed to just a sip and he always does a wee. He does not drink anytign with caffeine or eat chocolate. Lets hope the hormone kicks in soon as the night nappies cost a small fortune!

Lifting is working for us. My dd is 4 didnt want to wear a pullup any more. She seems to be able to wake up in the early morning for a wee (about 5) then goes back to bed. But is to deeply asleep in the middle of the night. Try it it might work might not. I am going to carry on for another month or so then try with out lifting. My mum said she did it with me and my sister for 3-6 month then we were fine. Saves money on pull ups.

How did she get on, Dabbles?

Ilana, you're not wrong - they cost a fortune! I even bought a couple of washable bedwetter pants thinking they would cut the cost, but dd wouldn't have them anywhere near her.

The worst thing is that because she's such a heavy wetter, her nappy absolutely honks by morning. I'll be delighted when that blasted hormone finally does it's thing and we can ditch them ... but I shan't be pushing her until then.

didnt work, she did a massive wee aat about 8.30, i went to check her at 11 and she was soaking! didnt even wake up, her bed, her clothes everything... so i guess th e hormone just aitn there yet... will leave it am not gonna pressure or distress her...

Good call, I think. It's not worth the stress and the wet beds, really.

Still being in pull-ups at nearly 5 isn't that bad really - she'll get there when she's ready.

yes, and they ARE disney princes pull ups! lol

Depends on the child. I heard a R4 programme about it once - 3 reasons all which may differ between children - some just physically don't have a big enough bladder yet, some can't make the mental connection they need to go yet and I can't remember the other one - genetic I think. We did try lifting one of ours. I don't remember it working very well. Their father and I both wet the bed until we were pretty old 6 or 7 or 8. I did find it difficult when neither twin had had a single dry night and they were about six, not even one, not one single one ever, not like occasionally an accident but every single night and the various attempts never worked. With our older son we got an alarm which worked. He was about 7. I bought two for the twins and that didn't work at first. I don't know what happened but by the time they were going on their first school away trip they were dry. Biggest achievement of that year. They were about 6 or 7.

Xenia, there is a genetic factor, I'm sure. Both dh and I were late being dry at night so dd didn't stand much chance, really!

It is hard when there's never a dry night; I can count the number of nights dd has been dry on the fingers of - well, on one finger, actually, when I come to think about it.

Someone suggested one of those alarms for her once - maybe it's something to consider if the problem's still going on when she's 7. I think that any younger than that, it could possibly be a bit too much pressure on the child - certainly it wouldn't be the right thing for my own dd at the moment.

The NHS I think has a general rule that until they're six I think it is they won't refer to the NHS bed wetting clinic. I felt we dealt with it a bit late with my son as the alarm worked so well once the nasal spray they gave him faile (I didn't like that anyway as it's chemicals which affect the brain). The alarm goes off the second they start to wet the bed and then wakes them. Also the thought it might go off works too but one of the twins just slept through it and the rest of the house was woken up so we weren't too keen on that.

I lifted, but ds was only 2.11 and just said one night he didn't want a nappy.
I lifted him for about 6mo (until I was too pg & big that I couldnt actually lift him).
His nappy had always been soaking in the morning, but I was pretty sure that he was doing it when he woke rather than in the night, which is why I let him go nappyless.
Had the added bonus of making him much more reliable in the day aswell, I guess because he wasn't using his nappy in the morning.
No idea if the lifting made a difference, as I don't know what the situation would of been if I hadn't done it.

I lifted with ds, when he was about 4 iirc.
Dd, who is 3.6, has JUSt gone out of night time pull ups in last few days (we ran out of pull ups so thought it worth trying nights too and they were mostly dry in the morning anyway). It#s been a week now ish and I reckon it's cracked. Anyway, haven't lifted at all with her and now wonder why I put myself through it with ds. He was a pfb though!

I lifted with ds, when he was about 4 iirc.
Dd, who is 3.6, has JUSt gone out of night time pull ups in last few days (we ran out of pull ups so thought it worth trying nights too and they were mostly dry in the morning anyway). It#s been a week now ish and I reckon it's cracked. Anyway, haven't lifted at all with her and now wonder why I put myself through it with ds. He was a pfb though!