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stupid qestion about training cups

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fernyburn · 22/08/2004 20:58

Hi all
My dd is 6 months old, and Im having a few problems with training cups.

I was given 2 avent bottles with a non drip valve inside and a spout, when she drinks from it, often nothing comes out... she sucks away and gets air.
I got fed up with them and bought her a tommee tipee cup for 6 months + this has a non drip spout, which she has to bite to get liquid out, and she cant get the hang of biting it, just tries to suck, and gets nothing, as its sealed air tight.

My problem is... I was told that babies need to learn to drink from a cup by using a sipping action, the advent is correct, because she is drawing from a spout, the tippee, needs to be bitten.......

whet did you ladies use... if she gets the hang of the tippee, does it just come naturally.. sipping ......

totally clueless on this one

thanks

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Branster · 22/08/2004 21:08

try the Heinz trainer cup.It is wonderful for babies. You should find it in most supermarkets (i.e. sainsbury). it has a soft rubbery spout, and although it is not spill proof the liquid flows easily and the baby can drink from it with no problem at all. i used it with dd from 4 month old. then we moved to another one (can't remember the name, but again it had a soft spout, i think it was a tommy make though, advertised as spil proof but it wasn't 100% like that, it did work well though) and very much later we used the proper non-spill cup. IMO it is more important that they actually drink from a cup than making a mess, it's only water after all. you could also try a cup without a lid , they sell it through a website, and it is tipped at an angle, can't remember the name but someone here would know.

Branster · 22/08/2004 21:09

no, the second one was from First Steps (or simmilar name) not tommy

Branster · 22/08/2004 21:13

here is the Heinz cup

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poppyseed · 22/08/2004 21:15

Think that you may be talking about a doidy cup - haven't used them myself but I know lots that have, including my mum so they have been around ages (she's 75!!)
I used anything that was going that wasn't one of these non-drip things. It means that I have to be more vigilant at meal times of course as the water gets sprinkled all over the place otherwise!! (DS is 16 months). I am currently using the Kids on the Go range (Boots) as the spout flips over to seal it for when you put it in your bag. With DD I tried the anyway up range and she got the hang of it quite well.... I understand your frustration with cups - believe me it doesn't go away - I am on a mission to find one for DD (5) for school, that REALLY doesn't leak everywhere...

Branster · 22/08/2004 21:16

actually this was the exact first cup we used

Branster · 22/08/2004 21:17

yes poppyseed that was the one i was thinking of!

Piffleoffagus · 22/08/2004 21:18

My dd used the tippee as I noticed the avent cup gets mouldy in the valves and is quite gross...
but we always offered dd water from the little lid of a feeding bottle, like a little cup and at 19 mths she drunk incredibly ably from a proper normal cup no spout, on her own...

Branster · 22/08/2004 21:25

right, the second one was either First Years or Safety1st make, bought it safeways I think.

edam · 22/08/2004 21:36

Dental health adviser warned me against using non-spill cups because it's just too difficult for babies to get anything out. They have to suck really hard. So if there's anything other than water in there, it's very bad for their teeth. Juice, apparently, is a disaster in a spill-proof cup.
She handed out really basic training beakers, no fancy valves or anything, and said that's all anyone should use. Bad news for carpets, I'm afraid.

This is the second time this weekend I've quoted her so she either gave great advice or was brilliant at propaganda .

JulieF · 22/08/2004 22:59

Our HV's also advise against the non spill cups. Have you ever tried drinking from one yourself, they are so hard!

Cups that are OK to use include the Boots own make soft spout, the Heinz one or the Tommee Tippee Easyflow.

Branster · 23/08/2004 15:57

Hi fernyburn

Today I had a look in Safeways and saw they sell the second cup DD used (after the Heinz cup as described earlier). It is from The Early Years, it is called Tumble Mates (if I remember correctly) it comes in purple, has 2 handles and they claim to be spill proof (in my experience it is not 100% spill proof but DD found it easy to drink from) and it costs £3.49. Hope this helps.

Hayls · 23/08/2004 16:36

My dd is almost 6 months and I'v ebeen unab;e to get her to drink from a bottle or a cup so I bought a Doidy cup. It arrived this morning and incredibly she sipped nearly a whole cup of water. OK, it looks strange and she did spill quite a lot but she drank from it, which is all I'm concerned about! I bought it after a couple of friends recommended it.

doidy

Roobie · 23/08/2004 16:43

I bought several of those non-spill cups with valves and they were absolutely useless! The Tommee Tippee one in particular even I could not get a drop out of - incomprehensible things! In the end dd used one of those short Tommee Tippee cups (a bit like the Heinz ones I think) with a spout that folds down - it just has one hole in the spout so very easy to drink from. She used this from 5 months and is still using it aged 2.4.

Piffleoffagus · 23/08/2004 16:46

oh another tip, don't give them juice, then they can wobble around with cups full of water and you never need to worry... unless the are near the pc that is!!!
dd is 21 mths and has not yet displayed an opinion on missing out on juice I plan to keep it from her forever!!!

earlygirl · 23/08/2004 16:51

i used the tommy tippee easy flow cup and my ds(24 months) has had no problems learning to use an ordinary cup

Aero · 23/08/2004 17:13

I like the Tommy Tippee one with the flip up and down spout. It requires minimal sipping/sucking to get the liquid out (drips out slowly when spout is open), then seals (and so far hasn't leaked in my bag) when closed. I bough it in Tesco's, but I think they're available in lots of places. Had the Heinz one for ds1 and dd, but prefer this.

Aero · 23/08/2004 17:14

ps - ds2 is seven mths

acnebride · 23/08/2004 17:45

Thanks for this thread fernyburn, having exactly same problem

Bought anywayupcup which I'm sure will be great later, but ds couldn't get a thing out of it - tried it myself and it's unbelievably difficult. Plus the flat lid just bumps against his nose. So just get him to sip water from it without the lid. But must say am worried about him not getting enough fluid.

Millie1 · 23/08/2004 18:33

Had exactly this problem with the avent cup and DS1 so am using the Heinz cup for DS2 - it's brilliant!

iota · 23/08/2004 19:10

It was so hard to get anything out of ds1's first Anywayupcup, that I took a knife to the seal and made the hole a bit larger.
It meant that it wasn't leakproof, but only a v small drip would come out if he knocked it over.

Pagan · 23/08/2004 19:58

Ah the parent's lament. I've tried them all and the best was the cheapest, already mentioned here. This was the Boots one which costs £2. Although not spill proof it comes with a lid so great for sticking in your handbag. Had trouble getting the lid off at first but now just grip with my teeth and pull hard. I wouldn't risk anything without a lid anyway. The other almost as good one was the TumbleTots (or is it Mates??) from Safeway (also mentioned) Pretty spill proof and easy for my DD to hold.

As for the others ... a complete waste of money with the Anywayup cup being the worst. My 6'6" DH even had real bother getting the lid off and we both had trouble sucking anything out of it so what hope for a baby.

LIZS · 23/08/2004 21:09

Try taking the valve out of the Avent cup and let her get used to the flow and flavour of something other than milk. It still isn't as free flowing as some of the hard spouted cups and she can chew away but not as hard work as non-drip cups. Give her a couple of months of this and then try again with the valve.

Dingle · 23/08/2004 21:52

If only I had found you wonderful ladies 2 years ago!!! My dd now 2.9 has Down Syndrome, and with it did had the associated problems of feeding. I tried so many cups, I felt that I could have opened up a "slighly used beaker shop!!"
In the early days I did try the anyway up cups as I had always used them sucessfully with my ds. I rang the company up, explained my situation and they kindly sent me one of their smiley cups. It is similar in design, has two handles and a screw on lid- this beaker is spillproof and has a weaker valve. We used this sucessfully and still do, when an open cup is not, shall we say, appropriate. (like when your visiting someone with a lovely cream, wool carpet!!)
With dd speech delay, it has been so important to get her away from a spouted cup and drink through a straw or a open cup. I am now trying the heinz 3 in 1 trainer cup, an open cup, or a straw.
Have tried a magic fountain glass, not recommended for 0-3 but with assistance, great fun, and dd can make the water splash with no problem- I was amazed at how much water she drank. Only thing was, ds wanted it, got into a bit of a scuffle and cup went flying accross floor and broke straw!!! will try a link but warning, this is my first attempt!!

Would be very interested in more opinions on doidy cup please.

Dingle · 23/08/2004 21:57

oh dear, that didn't work at all did it.
if anyone is interested the magic fountain glass, is available in Toys'r'us and you can see them on www.vogue-ltd.com

hovely · 23/08/2004 22:41

doidy cups have been great although they confused a couple of visiting friends (tried to give them to their children backwards )
they don't require any wrist action by the child so they are much easier and more stable to use.

i always thought (with no particular expert input) that the idea was to get away from sucking asap, so all these cups where you have to suck to get anything are just like fatter bottles, and the objective is to get the baby used to a gentle flow of liquid if they are not ready for sipping from an open cup. Can't remember the makes we had for dd but I used to take the valves out. Now (she is nearly 3) we use small sports bottles ('fruit shoot' or something, empty contents out and refill with water). Her favourite drinking vessel however is any old bucket lying around in the garden, preferably complete with snails.

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