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EASY routine advice please - 3 months on?

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threetwoonezero · 15/08/2018 13:05

Hi, I've been reading about this and I think it might work for me. Currently my dd though is doing a short sleep in the morning (30 mins) then I can keep her asleep for about 2-2.5 hours late morning with a bit of dummy plugging...I am wondering though if I should try and extend her morning nap with the same strategy and go for EASY? She is one hungry baby and she wont go more than 3 hours let alone 4 and she always finsihers her bottle. I'm trying to find ways to make her less grumpy and think she could do with a bit more routine. My question is...who is doing this, and what roughly are the timings you work on? do you tend to do longer morning and shorter lunchtime sleeps than I am doing? Thanks for any advice.

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Shabeth · 15/08/2018 14:04

Sorry not much advice but didnt want to read and run as I'm in the same boat with a 14 week old! She wakes up at about 9am about an hour to two hours after she gets up she usually naps for about two hours then after that it's sort of a free for all sometimes she naps and other times she doesn't. When is your bed time? Ours has been getting really grumpy in the afternoon lately so the last few nights we've started putting her to bed before us. Before this she was going to bed at 10/11 with us as her waking time was until about then and an earlier bed time was impossible.
I've found that now she's grown a little we can put her down at 8/9 do a dream feed at 11 and even if she wakes a few times she's been happier in the day and more likely to have an afternoon nap.

threetwoonezero · 15/08/2018 14:44

So I've started to put her down a bit earlier at about 8 and she's up at 6.30 but that works for me as I have morning insomnia and cant get past 5! She wakes a couple of times in the night and I only feed her once on the second waking. Although a few nights we've had bad nights. So how many hours sleep is yours doing at night? And when are you feeding, are you bottle feeding? I am (sad about it!). I've started giving her 4 naps rather than 3 in the day as I realised another reason she was grumpy was she was so tired and I was keeping her awake for too long. But she's a real greedy guts (or maybe I'm not feeding her enough) so if I start doing EASY it will be interesting if on 4 sleeps she tries to take 5 full bottles a day, then one before bed?! So I'm keen to see what other people do there, I dont want to ration it but equally I dont want to overfeed?? Tricky...!

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Shabeth · 15/08/2018 19:59

So happy ours sleeps until 9 that's when I get stuff done! She got into a pattern of going to bed at 10 and waking at 4ish then again at 7 but I think she may have hit the 4 month sleep regression because she's waking every 2 hours again. That's why we've introduced an earlier bed time and a dream feed fingers crossed the last two nights she's woken at 3 then 6.
Can't help you with the bottles we're breast fed she refuses bottles so I'm feeding on demand. She's eating way more aswell so I'm thinking growth spurt?
She's gotten herself into a morning nap routine but I have to work really hard to get her to nap in the afternoon she wouldn't sleep at all today and now she's in a horrible mood.
Going to try and start one in the morning and two in the afternoon she'll be in her crib in a couple months so thinking of trying her afternoon naps in there to turn it into more of a sleep schedule.

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threetwoonezero · 15/08/2018 20:30

I'm dreading the sleep regression! Best of luck with the napping and congratulations on keeping up the breastfeeding, I wish I had been able to. My DD has started to fight naps as of today....aaah always something new to contend with! I'm desperately trying not to rely on dummies but the crying is so tough, and no sleep training until 6 months for us...

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Oly5 · 15/08/2018 20:36

Why are you even doing this if you don’t mind me asking? Your babies are absolutely tiny. Just let them feed and sleep as they choose, as often as they like. There is no need for such young babies to have a routine.
I also can’t even imagine why anybody would do controlled crying

Shabeth · 15/08/2018 21:11

Ha I feel like the second you get the hang of something they change it up and confuse things again!

OK so if you know better how about offering some advice instead of criticising? We are feeding her as often and whenever she likes I don't know how it works with bottles but sounds like that's the case with op too.
My girl is getting so interested in the world around her if I don't actively try and get her to nap In the day she wont sleep all day and she's miserable in the evening which is no fun for her or us.
And who said anything about controlled crying?

Oly5 · 15/08/2018 21:28

Ok, we’ll my advice would be that trying to get a 14 week old to nap in a cot for their afternoon nap will be really hard work. The might sleep for a very short amount of time.. but they would sleep far longer in your arms or in the buggy on a walk!
I have three kids, I threw the books away within a few weeks with my first and have had happy babies by just going with it and not stressing about routines. No “foul moods” here. Just lots of eating and sleeping on demand, cuddles to sleep, letting them sleep in my arms and trying to just go with the flow. They all sleep through the night eventually.
Thereet mentioned “sleep training”... which is often just a way of saying you’re going to let them cry.
All I’m saying is there’s no need for that if you don’t want to do it.. and no need for strict routines at this age either. My 9month old has just started taking a 2 hour afternoon nap in the cot... but they are 9 months

Shabeth · 15/08/2018 22:27

I apologise if I came across abit defensive but you just can't win with your first. You have no idea what your doing and you're either critised with no constructive advise or get told to do something completely different by every single person you talk to kids or no kids.I don't read any books becuse they just confuse things even more.
You're very lucky that you had happy babies, mine has been a dream up until now but lately she's so fascinated by everything she won't sleep in the afternoon because there's too much to look at even though she spends 80% of her time in my arms or in her sling. What's wrong with trying to structure in a nap becuse I know if she misses it she'll be tired and unhappy all evening?
The cot afternoon nap is just so she doesn't go in in a few months and it's new and scary I'll stay with her while she naps I just thought getting her used to it would be a benifit, she naps in her crib downstairs a lot so I don't see the difference.

Camsie30 · 15/08/2018 22:30

I did this routine with my daughter from the months, was very strict especially for the first week of so. It really worked and she's now 3 and as half and a really good sleeper, has been properly sleeping through from seven months. Would definitely recommend it

threetwoonezero · 16/08/2018 08:34

thanks @Oly5 were you breast or bottle feeding? And @Camsie30 did yours sleep for longer sleeps than 30 mins at a time from the get go? This is what my challenge is with EASY, which I really want to go with the flow with, but that means formula sometimes every 2 hours and I'm worried about overfeeding

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Oly5 · 16/08/2018 12:58

I have breastfed mine. It’s up to you what you do but I’m just here to tell you that short naps in young babies is normal, that them waking up all night long and wanting to be carried about is normal. Rather than stress yourself out and your baby, you CAN just let them nap in your arms etc and not worry. My third child is the first to take a decent afternoon nap in the cot aged under 12 months. The other two were over 1 before they’d do that. Yes you can try, but don’t stress if you find yourself feeding them to sleep, rocking them a bit or putting them down asleep. These so-called problems are fixable when they are older. That’s my advice anyway

Oly5 · 16/08/2018 13:00

Pa my eldest two are brilliant sleepers. They did just get it eventually. Good luck!

threetwoonezero · 16/08/2018 13:14

Appreciated, thanks very much!

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Oly5 · 16/08/2018 13:20

It’s hard with your first. You feel like you’re doing it all wrong and that if you can just fix this one thing, they will sleep better. By your second and third babies you’re more relaxed and realise everything is a phase!! And that the sleepless nights do end

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