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4 year old rebellious behaviour

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newsparklythings · 29/07/2018 19:50

Not exactly sure what I'm asking here, but my 4 year old seems to suddenly be going through a 'difficult' phase. She has always been an 'easy' child - and I mean, very easy. Goes to bed and doesn't get back up/out, has slept through the night for years, you would usually count to 3 and she would come on 1 - the 'compliant' child.

Over the past couple of weeks it is sometimes like that, she is lovely, and sometimes like I have a different child. Examples..

1 - took her to a department store to get school uniform, she refused to get out of the car and said she wanted to go home / once in the store she started racing around like a nutter, being really silly hiding under racks of clothes, running off any time we wanted to hold clothes up to her, spinning round so we couldn't do it properly / she then out of nowhere ran up, kicked me hard in the shin and ran off - at that point I yelled in front of the whole shop, did a '123' and made her sit on a spot on the floor, I was so embarrassed
2 - my mother came round to help her try on the school uniform to check what fits - she knew this was coming as I gave her advance notice all morning. It meant she had to stop her game for 20 minutes and she would get a treat (ice cream) later in the day if she co-operated - she would not cooperate, not even with my mum and she is usually good with her. Tried to run off, jump up on furniture, flailing around / when we tried to get clothes onto her made her arms stiff so we couldn't bend them at the elbows, sat down or stood up when she should do the opposite.. it was a nightmare. My mother was suprised, has never seen her like that. I told her would lose the ice cream.. after at least 3 warnings she lost the ice cream.. and kept going.

These are just 2 examples, but it's like this rebellious hyperactivity. Even when we are giving her advance notice, explaining what we need and how much time it will take, and what reward she will get for good behaviour, and trying to be encouraging and kind. I end up using my strict voice, then a stronger one, then shouting, then yelling. In the case of [2] when she was flailing around she hit my mum in the face (by accident). I grabbed her and slapped her on the forearm - and that was such a shock she stopped - and cried, and I felt horrible.

I should say that DD is due to start school this year, so just over 4.5. The only change in our circumstances recently is that she was on holiday and with me non-stop for 2 weeks, then went back to nursery for 1 week. She has been going to nursery since she was a baby so I can't see how that should make a difference.

Has anyone experienced this with their DC around the same age, especially a DD and what is your 'method' for managing behaviour? I am a LP and very little contact/support from any family and work full time, so it is really going to be down to me to figure it out.

We have tried star charts once or twice before but she doesn't seem to care about them.

DD does get quite a lot of what I call treats e.g. ice cream, trip to park, little toy, bit of chocolate or whatever. I am wondering whether she should have to work harder to 'earn' these - but where I'm really struggling is when she is in the middle of the bad behaviour and the threat of their removal doesn't seem to make any difference to her.

Thanks x

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 30/07/2018 07:11

It probably is just being with you on holiday, going back to Nursery and anxiety over starting school. I’m guessing a lot of her friends have already left nursery too so it will be a bit different than she’s used to.

As you are finding out, shouting and hitting simply don’t work. Have a look at Calm Parents, Happy Kids.

NonaGrey · 30/07/2018 07:18

Four can be a difficult age. It’s very common.

However, your little girl sounds very nervous about starting school. I suspect some of this behaviour will resolve itself once she starts.

In the meantime have a chat with her about her worries and talk them through with her.

Cherubfish · 30/07/2018 07:25

I agree that this could be related to starting school. Just before my DD started school she began having accidents (after being completely dry for well over two years). It stopped as soon as she started school but I think must have been due to anxiety even though it's hard for us to understand that a 4 year old can be feeling stressed about anything.

Or, it could just be a phase. When you have a very well behaved child I think a period of silly behaviour is hard to deal with (as you're not used to it!) but they all have them at some point. Stay calm and carry on as you are - it sounds like you're handling it well (except the slap obvs). I'm sure it won't last for long.

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thethoughtfox · 30/07/2018 09:04

Mine has been a PITA and her nursery teacher said all the ones who are going to school are struggling: not doing what they are told, being clingy etc. We do lots of talking about feelings and mine is talking about how worried she feels about going to school quite a lot. She is also upset about leaven nursery and how things will change. Most evening and morning she asks if this or the next day are nursery days, who will be picking her up and what will be happening. This is life changing stuff for them. Knowing her teacher's name and having met her made a huge difference.

ODog · 30/07/2018 11:32

Sounds like she’s a little anxious about starting school. She’s too young to understand these feelings so is expressing herself in this way instead. There are lots of lovely books about starting school which you can share together and may help her to start opening up.

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