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Does anyone know how reading age is calculated for French speaking children?

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Nightynight · 17/05/2007 13:29

?
I want to calculate reading age for my children.

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franca70 · 17/05/2007 13:32

Do you mean children reading in french?

sauce · 17/05/2007 13:34

eh? my kids are in a French school & I haven't got a clue as to what their "reading ages" are. Dd was reading last year at about 5.5. Ds, at 3, recognises stuff like Ikea or Coke.

Nightynight · 17/05/2007 13:46

franca - yes.

I havent a clue either, sauce, but my children are at school in Germany, where they are being heavily criticised for not having the correct reading age in German. This is mostly because they are reading in 3 different language, but the only thing these teachers understand is test results, hence some attempt to make stupid numbers out of my children's reading achievements.

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franca70 · 17/05/2007 14:01

I would have thought they were a bit more relaxed on the continent about this reading age thing!
I can't believe they are criticising them, they are learning three languages! They are doing brilliantly.
Have to ask my friends in Italy, the ones with schoolage children, whther this reading age madness has been introduced there as well. At my time, you learnto read, and that was it.

Nightynight · 17/05/2007 18:25

I think they are a bit more relaxed in France. The system here is unbelievable. We get nothing but criticism from the school.

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Nightynight · 17/05/2007 21:26

anyone any idea how I could assess my childrens reading age in french??

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Othersideofthechannel · 17/05/2007 21:33

Nightynight, I'm in France. I don't know the answer to your question, but if noone's got any better ideas, what about this: I could ask my son's teacher to let me know what she would expect a child the ages of your children to be able to read.
How old are they?

NotRhubarb · 17/05/2007 21:35

dd's friend in France started learning in Sept, he would be in Yr 2 over here, he's 6.

ggglimpopo · 17/05/2007 21:35

Dunno. Think that they don't do it by age but by class (all those redoublements, don't you know, not to mention those who have jumped up rahter than down) so the bilan and controles will be class appropriate, rather than age. i think.

How you doing? When you coming to live this side of tghe alpes then?

Nightynight · 18/05/2007 08:09

hello ggg!
arghh, redoublement is not a word I want to hear. I am coming to France to escape from wiederholen which is the same thing only they force the children to do it.

I am coming over as soon as I get a job, destination still unknown. Have got a contract here until September, and would ideally move then, but I dont know how its going to work out.

otherside, thank you, they are 7,9 and 10. I can order some stuff off Amazon for them to read, but want to impress the people here in Germany with something that looks quasi official or scientific, eg "on using the Richter scale to calculate ds1's reading ability he scored 169, which is in the top 10% for his age group" or something like that.
Perhaps I should just design my own reading scale

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pillowcase · 18/05/2007 08:50

My dd is 6 and has started to read this year in CP. The progress they make in the first 6 months is unbelievable, but they did do a lot of groundwork in the maternelle.

btw, as far as I know the system of redoublement is not popular anymore and schools are advised not to do it unless absolutely necessary.

As for a reading scale I don't know of one, sorry.

ggglimpopo · 18/05/2007 09:58

Hi Pillowcase,

Redoublement is not so much as popular as obligatory at certain ages - CP the parents have no choice, ditto 5° if the child is not at the moyen - usually French and maths are the clinchers - (especially if the school is private) ditto 3° if no brevet and the same applies to the BAC years.

Private schools will redouble children to keep up standards and class attainment/averages levels. My son ended up redoubling CP (huge long traumatic threads, now deleted). I was very against it but he is now a happy and confident student, doing extremely well and it was, in light of all that has happened since, a Godsend. Other parents in his class (private)withdrew their kids and sent them to state schools rather than redouble. One of my son's friends, who had lower marks than he did in maths and reading, is now struggling in (state) year above, with 5 hours of state provided help per week. It will be interesting to see how they are both doing, my son and hers, in a couple of years.

BTW, redoubling in CP used to be a huge blackmark against a child (hence possibly why parents are still moving children to avoid it, and why it is as you have found in your area 'unpopular') but I think that times ahve changed and I would rather he stayed down a year young and then spent the rest of his (rigorous, French!) school career bopping along than struggled and struggled later on (as one of his siblings has done).

Speech over.

Come to Toulouse NN. I love Toulouse!

Nightynight · 18/05/2007 18:24

Toulouse is top of my list! but everything Ive been offered so far jobwise is in IDF. I am consoling myself with the prospect of day trips to blighty for golden syrup and 2nd hand novels.

The children may need to redouble at bacalaureat for all sorts of reasons (emotional etc). If my children had redoubled every time they moved countries (as the German system wants), none of them would have made it out of the 2nd year yet!!

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pillowcase · 18/05/2007 20:28

Nightynight, we're not too far from Toulouse and all the local supermarkets sell golden syrup! (and hobnobs, birds custard, crunchies etc etc) I kid you not! 2nd hand books though..... well there is amazon....

Nightynight · 18/05/2007 21:39

really? fantastic. you just cant get it in Germany. Along with castor sugar funnily enough, although that is available just over the border in Austria.

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Othersideofthechannel · 19/05/2007 11:01

No castor sugar!!! What kind of sugar do they sell?

ggglimpopo · 19/05/2007 14:16

Whereabouts are you pillowcase? I ma in bordeaux.

Nightynight · 19/05/2007 15:04

granulated and icing.
cant make decent doughnuts!

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pillowcase · 19/05/2007 22:59

near Aire sur l'adour, rural as you can imagine, but great! do you like bordeaux? we've only been a couple of times, kids love playing in the park on the island in the park (that's a mouthful!)

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