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Baby rice at four months old

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Smellybears · 11/05/2018 15:29

Hello!
Little one turned four months old on Tuesday. He has cows milk protein allergy and reflux.
He’s only on 3oz bottles as advised by the feeding nurse. He’s hungry still but is terribly sick if I give him 4oz bottles. I’ve tried a few times giving him 4oz but he ends up throwing up loads (comes out of his nose too).
Do you think giving him some baby rice would help? He is due to be weaned early, the feeding nurse is seeing us to start at five months but I feel he’s still hungry.
I know I have to be careful what I give him due to his cmpa.
Thank you in advance for your help! Smile

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Smellybears · 11/05/2018 15:30

Forgot to add that he has gaviscon in his bottles and he’s on 10mg omeprazole daily. He can’t have carobel in his bottles, we tried it and he had an awful allergic reaction to it so can’t go back on it.

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MyYoniFromHull · 11/05/2018 15:32

Not likely. There's no nutrition in baby rice, small milk feeds will be a much better source of calories.

I would discuss with the healthcare professionals before changing anything.
www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk/2011/12/nine-good-reasons-not-to-use-baby-rice.html?m=1

Oly5 · 11/05/2018 15:37

No. Baby rice has zero nutritional
Value. Formula has more. If he’s hungry, just offer him 3oz bottles more often

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Smellybears · 11/05/2018 15:43

He’s havung a 3oz bottle every 2.5 hours to three hours. I didn’t realise baby rice has no nutritional benefit, why do people give it to babies then? Not meaning to sound awkward by the way, I’m a FTM so still learning! Smile

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Skyechasemarshalontheway · 11/05/2018 15:45

You should not give baby any food before 6 months.

They just need milk milk and more milk until then. At 4 months they increase how much they eat for a few weeks and many make a mistake of weaning to early which is not good for baby.

lauryloo · 11/05/2018 15:51

My lo had cmpa and at 17 weeks we introduced necocate spoon which is a spoonable formula - speak to your gp or dietician about getting that perhaps

Smellybears · 11/05/2018 15:52

Skye thankyou but I’ve been advised to wean early (5 months) by his feeding nurse and specialist.
I’ve asked on here about rice as I can’t get through to anyone at the hospital until Monday. I just wanted peoples thoughts and advice as I genuinely thought rice would help so thank you, I appreciate it 😊😊

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Smellybears · 11/05/2018 15:53

Lauryloo thank you! I’ve seen that mentioned a few times too, did you find it helped with your little ones reflux/sickiness at all?

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lauryloo · 11/05/2018 15:57

It really did help - he had awful reflux and constipation too.

Hope you manage to get something sorted.

My baby is now 4 and he started tolerating dairy at around 2 and a half :)

Smellybears · 11/05/2018 16:01

Thank you! That’s so reassuring that it helped with the reflux. I’ll ask on Monday about putting him onto the neocate spoon although I think she will tell me to wait three weeks until he hits five months old. I just feel sorry for him as he wants his milk but will throw up loads.

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m0therofdragons · 11/05/2018 16:16

I weaned early due to reflux (4 months as advised by paediatrician). I started dd with puréed sweet potato and moved to her favourite parsnips and pear.

Lots of advice is not from 6 months and obviously mine is only anecdotal but she was so much happier and it meant I ebf her until 10months (stopped due to me being ill). She's got no allergies despite me having loads.

You know your baby so listen to advice then do what works for you. Reflux is awful and parents who've not experienced it really don't know. Number 2 and 3 for me were the easiest babies so I can imagine if they'd been my first I would have been really confused why people say having a baby is hard. Dd1 was truly exhausting. It gets lots better!

Smellybears · 11/05/2018 16:25

Thank you mother! It’s been a real journey honestly and I don’t want to wish his little life away but his reflux has been damn hard work and especially teamed with cmpa!

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 11/05/2018 16:38

To answer your question about why people give baby rice when it has little or no nutritional benefit - I have always assumed that it is just to get the baby used to eating from a spoon, and to the different texture of food - like a practice food, but one that is bland and soft, so is unlikely to cause the baby any problems.

My babies are all grown up now - 21, 23 and nearly 25 (god I must be old), and when they were babies, the NHS guidelines were to wean at 4 months, not six, as it is now, and all three were weaned on baby rice initially, and then onto other purees - banana is a good one, because it is really easy to make, but I used to puree all sorts of things - especially with my eldest, when I was really keen - I used to make all sorts of things and freeze them in cubes, so I could defrost a variety of different things for him to try. With the other two, I was busier and had less energy and motivation, so I tended to puree whatever I was cooking for the family, though I did make sure it was suitable, of course.

And please don't worry about asking questions - I think there is a saying that the only daft questions are the ones you don't ask - we were all new to this at one time or another, and I really remember what a huge responsibility it all is, and how much you worry about things that, in retrospect, were probably not worth worrying about.

Enjoy this lovely time with your little baby - you have got so many lovely things ahead of you - so many firsts to look forward to and enjoy - and even when there are tough parts (and dealing with this reflux must be so tough for you as well as for the baby), I always found that the good parts outweighed them, in the long run. Even the grumpy, Lynx-drenched, hormonal teenage years!

Before you know where you are, that little baby will be taller than you, and will be patting you on the head if you ask him to reach something down from a high shelf for you - or maybe that's just my lovely boys! They buy me gin, though, so all patronising head patting is forgiven! Grin

arbrighton · 11/05/2018 17:34

2.5- 3 hours is not especially frequent for feeding.... Just keep the smaller bottle, more often, on demand.

wintertravel1980 · 11/05/2018 19:57

OP - I am not sure how many people have actually read your original post. A lot of paediatricians recommend that reflux babies are introduced to solids as soon as they reach 17 weeks. I know baby rice gets a lot of bad press these days but there is no real reason why you cannot try it for a couple of days before moving to pureed vegetables.

I have seen the link to the post from Analyticalarmadillo and while I generally find this blog interesting and credible, this particular piece of analysis is not entirely accurate and includes debatable statements. For instance, baby rice itself has very little sugar - all the sugar content in the baby cereal comes from added milk. Also the statement "baby rice has no nutritional value" should be read as "baby rice has no fats or proteins". Of course, it has carbs and carbs have their place in a balanced diet.

I would not give rice for more than 2 or 3 days though. I also weaned DD early but I started with vegetable purees and baby porridge (which probably gets almost as much negative press as baby rice). It has gone very well and it definitely helped with DD reflux.

Smellybears · 12/05/2018 07:46

Winter and SDTG thank you both for your replies Smile
I do think he will benefit from being weaned early. When he was onanti reflux milk (before being diagnosed with cmpa) it really helped with his reflux.
He will be 17 weeks on Tuesday. I’ll talk to his nurse and specialist on Monday, explain the situation and hopefully they’ll agree with me too Grin he has his medication on a spoon which he has no problem taking at all, he likes playing with his spoon as well!

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SheSparkles · 12/05/2018 07:51

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius what a lovely reassuring post for a first time mum Flowers 😊

Smellybears · 12/05/2018 07:53

I thought the same too Smile she’s taken the time to reply a reassuring post and it’s put my mind at ease a lot. I’m actually now excited about weaning whereas before I was nervous and not really looking forward to it

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Noloudnoises · 12/05/2018 08:16

If it were me, I would give it a go. I would use whatever his special formula/boob milk is mixed with the rice. This would essentially be a slightly thickened version of the milk, thus filling them up a little more. When you make it up it's so thin anyway, not thick like a paste like one would expect.

Perhaps that might settle the tummy a little more and satiate the hunger?

Good luck, do what you feel is best, although I know if you're in two minds you don't KNOW what's best!

Reflux is horrid!

Smellybears · 12/05/2018 08:25

Honestly I’m so torn on what to do! Confused

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converseandjeans · 12/05/2018 08:36

Both mine had rice from about 16 weeks. They seemed to be hungry and a small amount helped. They liked baby porridge too. The pureed sweet potato etc went down well too. Like SDT I used to make cubes up of things like carrot, apple, sweet potato and freeze them. I think if they have reflux it might help? I am no medical expert though. Advice used to be 4 months rather than 6. I hear of more allergies nowadays in kids than back in the 70s/80s when babies were weaned earlier.

Katiep0tato · 12/05/2018 08:39

@Skye there’s no magic baby switch that flicks on at 6 months meaning they’re ready for food. Aside from situations like the OPs where she has been medically advised to wean early, if a baby can sit up unaided or with a little support, has the hand to eye coordination needed to get food to their mouths and has lost the tongue thrust reflex (the timing of which will vary - some babies mighe be ready at 5 months, others not until 7) then there’s no harm in trying them with some solids. Babies are little individuals, not programmable robots, and the idea that they’ll all be ready for food at exactly the same time is ridiculous.

GrumpySusan · 12/05/2018 08:42

We were advised to wean early due to reflux and lactose intolerance but managed to make it to 6 months by thickening milk with Nutilis powder after dd reacted to carobel. It was prescribed by peads, could that be an option?

JustSeeingHowManyCharactersWeC · 12/05/2018 08:57

You should not give baby any food before 6 months.

No, advise is to begin weaning by six months but not before 4. There are many scientists that believe you are at risk of micronutrient deficiencies if you wait until 6 months. In developed countries there are no disadvantages to weaning at 4-6 months

Smellybears · 12/05/2018 08:58

GrumpySusan that’s interesting that your title one reacted to carobel too, the specialist and nurse had never come across a reaction to carobel before. Every time I speak to the nurse she says about putting him on caribe land I have to remind her (through gritted teeth as I always have to remind her, she should read his notes properly!) that he had a reaction. She won’t give me anything else apart from gaviscon, I’ve asked about nutilus powder and she said to just wait till he’s weaned at five months

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