Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Parenting

For free parenting resources please check out the Early Years Alliance's Family Corner.

My ex only wants access to two of our four kids!

37 replies

wintersweet1977 · 31/03/2018 10:33

To cut a long story short my ex picked up our four kids on Weds night to stay over with him. The two middle kids have autism and struggle with sensory issues and change. He said to one of them that he was going to have his hair cut, my son came to find me nearly in tears, this kid does not cry over anything! I tried to explain to my ex calmly that his sensory issues make it feel like he's being hurt and if he was going to get a hairdresser to cut it make sure that it was one that understood autism.

He took the four kids off in the car, my kids with autism were already unsettled about going to stay with him then the haircuts on top were stressing them out even more. According to my eldest (11) my ex started shouting, our eldest (11) asked him to stop shouting and he leaned over while driving and had a shouting match with my 11yo. He then told him he was going to take him back to my house and my eldest said he wasn't coming home without his siblings.

He dumped the four kids in the middle of the street with their stuff and drove off without even checking I was still at home.

Since later on that night he has been texting to say our eldest has no respect for him and he doesn't want a relationship with him until he stops challenging him.

He wants to see the youngest two but wants to cut off the eldest two.

There have been ongoing problems like his refusal to use booster seats until I threatened to stop him having the kids, he takes them to his flat where they sit watching tv all day and eat junk. One of my kids has serious allergies and he keep buying food he can't eat then eating it in front of him or offering him food with the allergens in. He goes to sleep in the afternoon and leaves my 11yo to look after his younger siblings. When he has them on a school morning he doesn't give them a proper breakfast and offers them a snack bar, last time they had nuts in so they all decided to not have breakfast because their brother is allergic to nuts and so all went to school hungry. My two with autism need their routines keeping up which he refuses to do. I get all the fall out from this. When he visits the kids here he sits scrolling through his phone and its hard work trying to get him to engage with them.

He doesn't recognise any of his faults, even though I've told him the kids all love him and want to spend time having fun with him, they want him to stay with them in the flat and talk to them, play games with them etc etc

I have told him that he can't have access to two of them as it's cruel for the other two, I didn't mention that I have my doubts about whether they'd be safe without my 11yo. I've not been happy with him having them for a long time and have tried talking to him about it but things change for a week or so and then go back to the way they were. Am I being unreasonable? I'm thinking of getting legal advice on this as he's threatening me with social services so he can get access to the youngest two. I have done everything to keep their relationship good, including agreeing to almost every date he decided to see them, cancelling my plans when he's changed his mind at the last minutes or turned up an hour or two late, made excuses for him to the kids, but I've had enough and so have the kids I think. I've even lied to my eldest and told him that I made the decision not to let him see his Dad while he's angry because I don't want him to know his Dad has rejected him. All the kids are very upset.

Am I being unreasonable?

Sorry for the epic post and thanks for reading it.

OP posts:
Cindie943811A · 31/03/2018 12:17

Stop access and the ball is in his court to take legal action. The court will request a social work report and his appalling behaviour will be revealed to support your decision. If you have to compromise offer supervised contact only — he is unlikely to want this as he will have to consistently pay attention to the DC.
Do not try to protect him or the DC’s image of him by taking the blame yourself because the children may believe you and tell the social worker/psychologist that stopping access is mum’s idea and not dad’s behaviour/decision.
Hard thing for 11 year old to hear but it is more than probable that such an intelligent, sensitive and responsible little boy already knows what the score is. His father made clear hiiislike when he dumped the DC and likely said.as much in his rage. However if you discuss the issues with him you can assure him he acted correctly and responsibly and is more mature than his father, you can express how proud you are of him and that his father needs to change his behaviour before access can resume.
Good luck, you are a wonderful mother and have given your ex every chance I children’s interests but enough is enough and now is the time to sort maintenance and stand up to him

PeonyTruffle · 31/03/2018 12:19

*Ipiggle
*
What a dickish thing to say

Theimpossiblegirl · 31/03/2018 12:25

Your kids sound great, must be down to you as your ex sounds like a complete tosser.

I agree with all or none, but it means you are never going to get a break so if you don't already have a social worker/extra support, you need to get it put into place.
Flowers

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Finola1step · 31/03/2018 12:28

lpiggle, when does term start again?

mummabeargrr · 31/03/2018 12:29

OP I think we have the same Ex! My DC don't have the issues that yours do, but I stopped contact when they where 10,9 and 4. Among such things as driving really fast and aggressively if they had conversations which he wasn't involved in, getting drunk whilst camping and vomiting on the tent, DD (10) told him to clean it up before it went into tent - was told to 'F' off. Got annoyed with them in central London because they were climbing a wall and he wanted them to stop and when they didn't he walked off and left them. And numerous other horrid things. So we went to court, DC saw CAFCASS, they interviewed him - with difficulty he would be at home for meetings, he wouldn't do courses, wouldn't send emails. Wouldn't call when he was meant to. He had supervised contact, after a while DC refused it as they were terrified. After some time the courts left it in his hands - do the courses, make the effort and the kids will want to see you. That was 7 years ago and haven't seen him since - the kids are healthy, happy and relieved.

The courts interest is in the children's not yours not his.
Contact CSA, get some legal advice.

ReanimatedSGB · 31/03/2018 12:34

Stop contact, tell him to go fuck himself. Let him take you to court - he probably won't want to spend the money.

bastardkitty · 31/03/2018 12:37

Also does he know you use Mumsnet because one of the posters on this thread has the same cuntish vibe?

CherryBlossom100 · 31/03/2018 19:01

Op. You’ve raised some wonderful kids. Your eldest is a young carer of his younger siblings. The local council should offer things to help him. This often means youth clubs or days out to let him meet other children in a similar situation and time to let off some steam. Have a google and see what your local area offers. I work as a teacher in the London area and there’s a big push at the moment to help children who help parents look after siblings or even look after their parents. Lots of other people have offered great advice about the ex but I think it would be lovely for your son to get the recognition of the hard work and love he has for his younger siblings. Xx

wintersweet1977 · 31/03/2018 19:22

Thanks everyone again, yes my 11yo is brilliant as well as moody and teenagerish lol, he's getting an adventure weekend away after easter as a break/reward.

We don't have a social worker, the services in our borough are appalling. The GP referred my 9yo as he can get very aggressive and the GP thought safeguarding issue so referred to SS who didn't even see us just referred us onto a not for profit agency. But we have begun to get help through a charity so maybe they could help.

I think I will stick to my guns and even if he changes his mind he'll have to put up with just taking them to the park and bringing them back or something. I'll check on my legal rights to prevent him seeing them when I have enough money for a solicitor. Thanks guys made me feel better :)

OP posts:
wintersweet1977 · 31/03/2018 21:35

Hi Cherryblossom100, My 11yo has been going to a young carers group for 3 or 4 years now so he has a break everyweek, I wish he could have more but now he's getting older he'll be able to walk to his grandparents or have fun with his friends after school when he goes to high school.

OP posts:
GabsAlot · 01/04/2018 00:12

i wouldnt even let hm take a dog to the park let alone his kids

cut him off he wont take it to court he prob couldnt be bothered

ReanimatedSGB · 01/04/2018 01:31

If there is no court order in place at present, just tell him to fuck off. There will be nothing he can do without going through a (long, expensive) procedure to get court-ordered contact. Once you have told him to fuck off, then you talk to WA, SS etc about how vile, abusive and harmful to the DC he is, in case he does sue, so you've got his behaviour on record, but right now, he cannot bother you or DC at all.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread