Will SS take this child ?

[matt1978]

I've name changed in case family are on here.
I have a close relative who is expecting a baby.
This isn't really relevant but he has achondroplasia which they've just found out the baby has inherited (his first child to a different mother did not).

His mother called mine in a panic as SS have become involved. Unknown to her (but maybe to my family member) the mother of the baby has had two previous babies taken away at birth as she was in an abusive relationship which she wouldn't / couldn't / didn't leave. She has no contact with those kids who have been adopted. She also grew up in the system and has no relationship with her family.
My question is - as she's now in a relationship with my cousin and they have the support of his mother - what are the hopes of them being allowed to keep this baby and will it be taken or will they just be monitored and supported ?

Do you have the sort of family that could meet and come up with a plan?
Your cousin and his partner will be assessed but you need to be realistic.
Mum has a serious history and both parents have significant challenges.
The wider family need to have discussion about what they can offer if the baby is not allowed to stay with the parents.
I suggest contacting The Family Rights Group for advice. Sooner rather than later.
Other posters may know of other organisations but they were very helpful to me.

Mail its infuriating. I know there are issues with the current system and all this nonsense actually distracts from that. I suppose people aren't interested in the every day issues. They only want to get involved if its lurid

In response to the OP there will be a pretty rigorous parenting assessment and follow up monitoring after but I’ve worked with parents who have had their previous children removed and gone on to have children remain in their care; in these circumstances the fact that she’s in a new relationship makes a big difference as long as it’s a healthy relationship and it depends what her parenting was like for her first children.
It sounds like a lot will fall on your cousins mum.
The forced adoption myth makes no sense; from a financial stand point it’s costs hundreds of thousands of pounds to councils to remove children, assess adopters etc so why would the government want to do that.

OP you’ve had an NC fail, just so you know....

I'm just clocking the forced adoption link as relates to the previous kids being taken off her ! In his case I'd say that was a stretch and the info I have seems like the welfare of the kids was a concern- I don't know the details but from what I understand she was in an abusive relationship and the first time at least given help to leave or risk losing the baby and wasn't able too or didn't choose to leave and carried on to have a 2nd child which as she remained in that relationship was subsequently removed at birth
I don't know the details as I said but there were clearly welfare concerns around leaving children in the care of the mother with her partner
The youngest child removed would now be around 7 so some time has passed since then. I don't know when her previous relationship ended
She started a relationship with my cousin in May last year and was pregnant within a couple of weeks. Baby due early feb. He has history of short intense relationships,often with girls with learning difficulties or other disabilities or vulnerabilities, always played out publicly over Facebook with declarations of love followed by huge falling out - it's all very teenage and as I said he and most of his partners are not very mature.
He was young when he had his first kid and the mother, young and vulnerable with disabilities , was court ordered to live with the baby with her mother which turned out ok. She is actually now married to someone else and all seems fine . I get the vibe off Facebook that my cousin is a bit of a waster and unreliable to his kid but his mother has been a stable presence and has a lot of involvement with her .

Honestly as well meaning as my cousin may be I truly worry for the child that is being brought into a relatively short relationship with two emotionally immature parents and I hope it works out for all of them

fenella yes spotted that and decided too lazy to fix !