4 month old really poorly? A&E?

[SwishSwishBITCH]

Ds1 3 has just got over what I think was a 48hr bug. Got into bed last night ds2 4 month started projectile vomiting everywhere. Has been since about 10 last night, about every hour and half he's projectile vomiting. I breastfeed but everytime I feed he starts to vomit again. He started up about 5 hour ago with a raging temp. I've tried cooling him down a little but he still has a temperature. Unfortunately got no thermometer he's sleeping for the most of 15 mins a time and he looks so poorly

I've been told the only thing to do is A&E because he's so young and it's after every feed.

Just need a bit of advise please. I've tried to contact family but no one's answering and I literally don't have anyone else.

Thanks everyone.

Ring 111 for advice. You need medical advice as he's so young.

Poor you and him, stressful! I would call 111 and ask for a doctor appointment immediately at hospital
Or if they can't offer that then head straight to a children's A and E

Definitely 111 and let them advise you. Hope things improve for your little one soon

With really little ones it's always best to seek advice, so 111 straight away and they'll tell you what to do next.

Definitely ring 111 but have a read of this on Kellymom as well. I was once told not to feed when my DS was sick by a GP who just assumed I was ffing

Definitely seek medical help. They are so little and vulnerable at that age. I hope he feels better soon

Once he is well please buy a thermometer. DD gave us quite a few frights when she was little, and the first thing I was asked when I rang for advice was what was her temperature.

Hope 111 put your mind at ease and point you in the right direction.

Just wanted to mention that even if it seems he's throwing up the whole bf breastmilk is the most easily absorbed liquid and some of it will be absorbed even if he only keeps it down for a few minutes. Plus antibodies etc. So keep feeding! When mine had vom bugs I fed them little and often. Remember to keep yourself hydrated too!

Seek RL advice - this is what NHS24 is for.

Get an appointment for our of hours gp if you can this morning.

Call 111 and buy a thermometer!!!!! It's a must !!!!

@SwishSwishBITCH don’t forget to come back and let us know how you’re getting on

Rang 111, I've been to the out of hours doctors. They agree he has a temp. Currently at 37.2. They say he is not dehydrated, which is obviously a good sign. Its obvious he has that bug She told me just to give him Calpol every 4 hour as well as DS1. And as long as he's drinking, even though he throws it up immediantly, he will not get dehydrated.

I've bought a thermometer

to you all x

Sounds like he’ll be fine and glad you’ve bought a thermometer. My DSIL didn’t “believe in them”. She changed her mind after her poor DS had a couple of convulsions...

DD had a bug when she was about 3mo, I found if I gave a small feed, even if she was crying for more, it would stay down better. Like sips of drink for older children.

You could try some boiled cooled water in a bottle? The main concern is dehydration with vomiting so check out the main symptoms of dehydration in babies on the NHS website so you know what to look out for.

Hope he's better soon, it's awful when they're ill. And keep washing your hands! You don't want to be struck with it too.

Lostin the BM will be enough to keep her baby hydrated and will have the added benefit of white blood cells. No need for the addition of water for a BF baby

@ILostItInTheEarlyNineties they do not recommend that any longer especially for breastfed babies and not formula fed unless it's boilin hot outside. Reason being there's very high risk of fatal water intoxication. It doesn't take very much to cause it either. Frequent breastfeeding is sufficient and is more quickly absorbed even with vomiting.

Argh sorry! Please ignore my advice there.
Offering a bottle of water when they were sick was always promoted when mine were babies but that's going back a few years now.. sorry for the outdated info!

No worries @ILostItInTheEarlyNineties it wasn't an attack just best to pick up on it in case someone else reading was unaware.

Absolutely, guidelines have changed since I was a mum on most things!
I'm glad you pointed it out.

We were also advised to undress them and sponge them down with tepid water to cool a fever and I've noticed the NHS do not advise this anymore.

Yeah @ILostItInTheEarlyNineties that's a recent change and also no stripping to nappy leaving them naked either. A year ago I as being told in hospital to do those things after my lb had his second sustained febrile convulsion. Apparently research shows it can be detrimental as it the skin will cool but the body core rises because the skin is cold.

Well we’re all learning something. I didn’t know that about stripping and sponging either!

Hi everyone he's been much better today. No temp or vomit, But alot of stinky nappies. Ds1 hasn't been sick either today and neither has DH so I think we're doing ok for now!!
He's taking all his feeds. Giving Calpol every 4 hr. and my washing is finally done

I cooked him off yesterday by stripping down to nappy and skin to skin. I remember that slinging can cause the temp to go higher.

My dmil said water is best for him atm I tried telling her he's ok with breastmilk but she would not believe me as per. Maybe 30 years ago mil

Ha I made the same mistake as your Mil. Always better to check current medical recommendations over old women's advice! She sounds rather bossy though..

Glad he's on the mend. One thing that doesn't change is the awful worry when your baby's ill and The Washing Mountain. I remember that well.