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AIBU to stop son going to his dads?

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user1468348545 · 01/01/2018 15:14

o please bare with me, long post coming!

So my son is 8, and me and his dad have been apart since he was 15 months. My decision as he wasn’t doing anything for me or his son and I had enough of being a single parent who’s as supposedly married. Just after his 2nd birthday his D decided to move back to his hometown approximately 4 hours away; his justification was that he could earn more there so would be able to provide more financially. I never particularly agreed with this motive as to me time with his DS was more important but he went ahead anyway.
He was visiting once a month for a weekend Under supervised conditions because of threats to take DS and not bring him back. I had to go down legal routes to sort out custody and visitation and I was granted 100% residential custody; and he had a set visitation schedule. Money was eventually agreed via the CSA as he refused to cooperate to work out a fair amount.

After a while I allowed DS to go to his D to stay and even started making a 12 hour round trip by train every other weekend to take him to his dad at my expense (he brought him back by car) so he could see him more often. After a few weeks he said this was too much for him so could we do holidays only.

I agreed and now he only has visits up there during the holidays.

This is where it gets complicated and I’m debating stopping him going. He has no contact with his son between visits at all. No phone calls. Messages or Skype. When it comes to organising times to go up there etc I don’t hear from him until the last minute and he constantly changes the times etc. He himself has only done the runs to collect/drop off approx 3 times in the last 2 years. His brother normally does it for him as he’s too busy with work! One of the runs he did do, he got my DS up at 3 am and dropped him back just after 6am as it was the only time he could do! Whenever my DS is up there it’s almost impossible for me to have contact with him, he’s passed from pillar to post (admittedly mostly family) and never gets any time with his dad as he’s always working.
Now I understand as a working parent that you can’t take weeks off on end but all I’ve asked for is 1 Day per visit where he takes it off and has some quality one on one time. This never happens. 5 days per year isn’t unreasonable surely?!
This last visit over New Years has been the straw that broke the camels back. He couldn’t get down because of snow (now I know it was bad but his brother got down to visit his family down this way on the very day he was meant to travel so it can’t of been that bad. Then 2 days later and endless ignored messages when he’d said he’d collect he then said he couldn’t again. Thankfully his brother came and got my son and took him up there as he’d been to visit whilst down here and knew how upset DS has been because of not being able to go.

Now this is all a very condensed version of countless problems but I guess my question is AIBU to stop him having his visits up there? All it does is upset my DS when his D is constantly letting him down and I honestly can’t keep on putting our lives on hold waiting for him to decide as and when he wants contact. I’ve been beyond flexible and accepting as I want my DS to have a Dad but I honestly feel like it’s hving a more negative impact.

Any advice would be helpful; and will answer any questions. Thanks!

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EveryoneTalkAboutPopMusic · 01/01/2018 16:52

I’ve not been in this position but could you not necessarily stop him, just not be quite so cooperative? I wouldn’t mention Dad to your DS or his visits. If ex-h does get in touch asking for DS, tell him when irs convenient but be firm. Tell him if he doesn’t come when arranged, you’ll be out.

Graphista · 01/01/2018 17:04

This is EXACTLY what my ex was like, I'll possibly get flamed but in all honesty with hindsight I do wish I hadn't made the effort I did in keeping dd having a relationship with her dad because the situation now is he hasn't seen her for about 6 years, doesn't phone/message at all, doesn't know her - but of course it's all my fault according to him.

According to dd she understands why I did what I did (and I bent over backwards to maintain a relationship between them) but also wishes she didn't know her dad - as you don't miss what you don't remember having.

We split when she was 2 and from the very beginning (again hindsight is a wonderful thing) he had to be chased and chivvied and cajoled into making the slightest effort.

I wish I had known about mn then as I'm sure someone with more experience would have given me good advice.

RandomMess · 01/01/2018 17:08

I think you need to speak with DS. Would it actually just be better to arrange contact with his grandparents/uncle as they will stick to plans and co-ordinate with collection etc.

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user1493413286 · 01/01/2018 17:16

I’d give his dad set times an dates to collect him; with lots of advance warning for example for the next year so he can arrange his work around it and say if he doesn’t keep to that then he isn’t seeing his son. It’s not fair on your son to keep changing things.
If his family wants to see your son they can organise it separately with you.

KarmaStar · 01/01/2018 17:16

Hi OP
You're a saint!
You've bent over backwards to facilitate a relationship between your exdh and dc and he has taken advantage.
I suppose the question is,does your dc want to visit has dd?
If he wants to continue to see him I'd absolutely make him do the travelling.
It's time he learnt his dc is far far more important than anything else..
Flowers

KarmaStar · 01/01/2018 17:17

I meant you're exdh to do the travelling as opposed to you,just thought I'd clarify.Smile

user1468348545 · 01/01/2018 17:31

THis is it. DS is getting more teary and not wanting to go. He has said he only goes up to see his sister (Dad and current partners) and his family but he doesn’t see daddy. He constantly asks why his Dd doesn’t love him as much.
I’ve tried talking to Ex-h, shouted, cried, pleaded. Nothing works and I’ve just gotten to point I’m giving up now. This was the 1st Christmas in at least 4 years he actually remembered to message, but found out that when DS got there, he had no presents from them and that they were going out to buy them. He also forgot his birthday again this year and DS received no gift.
The stupid thing is I let him pick and choose when he has DS in the hope that means he’ll have time off but it never happens that way.
My CP can’t understand exh attitude at all and absolutely adores my son and my son adores him. Even asked if it’s ok to call him Dad. (I’ve said it’s totally up to him and whatever he’s comfortable with) so he has a loving, stable home here and has 2 stepsisters who visit with us regularly. I just don’t want to deprive him of his biological family but wonder if it’s doing more harm than good now.

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RandomMess · 01/01/2018 17:35

Even he doesn't want to go anymore at all not even to see GP then just leave it Thanks

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