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Excessively crying 4 month old whenout, help!

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AnnaS86 · 30/12/2017 20:10

Hello. I’m after a little advice or even reassurance I’m not alone!

My 4 month old daughter was born 3 weeks premature due to me having severe pre eclampsia and she suffered a few things such a tongue tie which was not diagnosed and fixed till she was 9 weeks old, as well as reflux, colic etc. She cried virtually non stop for 12+ hours a day from 5 weeks until she was about 12 weeks old.

Now all of this has been resolved she is a generally happy and giggly little baby, provided she is at home with me and my husband. However, possibly as a developed coping mechanism from crying so much in her early life, she gets very upset and cries pretty inconsolably if we either take her out, to other peoples houses or even have people over to the house. If we go to baby classes she cries almost all the way through to the point where it becomes quite disruptive for the other mums and she gets very upset if we pass her to other people. Sometimes she will get herself into such a state that she starts to cough or choke from such excessive crying and the only resolution is to take her home. It makes going anywhere a huge challenge and causes a lot of stress. Her crying also goes from 0 to 100 to 0 in a matter of seconds regardless of whether we are at home or out; a slight whine will in no time turn into a full blown scream with no clear reason and then resolve itself just as unexpectedly so I’m always on tenterhooks when I’m out.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar and do you have any advice or just some assurance that this phase will end!!! Should I just persist in the hope that she gets used to being out and about? She’s so lovely and has absolutely bags of personality, she just seems scared by everything that is not our home and us and her method of coping is extreme. It makes me so sad that she finds so many things so upsetting and I’m sad that other people, including grandparents, don’t get to enjoy how wonderful she is because she’s too busy screaming at them!

I love her so much but also I’m completely drained. We don’t live near any family and my husband works full time so either I stay in on my own all the time so she’s happy or I go out and cope with constant crying / screaming. I have met lots of mums in my local area but no one has a baby like her so it’s also quite upsetting seeing mothers with settled, content babies of the same age when she is so unhappy and high needs when out and about. I generally try to put on a front and laugh it off but it’s very hard and I’m starting to worry that I’m doing something wrong. It is also hard not to get really flustered when it happens in public which of course has a knock on effect on her.

For info: I carry her in a sling as she refuses to sit in a pram for any length of time but she will not be in the sling for long unless she’s napping. She is exclusively breast fed. She is a bad napper and will only be carried to sleep but she does generally sleep well at night with only a couple of wakings for a quick feed.

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Chaosofcalm · 30/12/2017 20:12

Could she be tired or over stimulated?

AnnaS86 · 30/12/2017 20:16

I don’t think it’s tiredness as it doesn’t happen at home when it’s just us and not sure about over stimulation either - today for instance we took her out for lunch and she was happy and smiling in the sling all the way up the road, the moment we got into the place we were eating she began to cry and carried on until she fell asleep almost an hour later.

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Chaosofcalm · 30/12/2017 20:18

I am no expert just throwing around ideas. Was it busy or bright in the cafe? I am sure at that age 90 mins awake time is recommend as the maximum. Have you tried feeding her when she gets upset?

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AnnaS86 · 30/12/2017 20:24

Thank Chaosofcalm. Yes that’s the other thing I should have mentioned, when it happens at home or someones house I will generally feed her to calm her down but she will not feed when out for some reason and just fusses, I think she finds everything very distracting so there are few things I can do to calm her. It does also mean that if we are at someone’s house or have people over she is pretty constantly comfort feeding. She even does this in our baby massage class which is extremely relaxing, nicely lit etc. so I stand and bounce with her whilst the class goes on.

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happychange · 30/12/2017 20:27

Sounds like she’s over stimulated
My DS was a bit like this when younger, he would get overwhelmed very quickly and scream!
We soon worked out the signs of him being over stimulated and quickly take him into a dark room and feed him so he can calm down

Also you will be pleased to know that this phase doesn’t last long, probably outgrew it by about 6 months.

Chaosofcalm · 30/12/2017 20:27

We did not do baby massage until my DD was about 4 months and she was medicated for reflux. Although she loved baby massage she could not cope with in the class so in the end I never even tried to do it on her in the class.

The situation you described does sound a bit like over stimulation.

AnnaS86 · 30/12/2017 20:33

Thanks both for your responses. It does perhaps sound like overstimulation then. I have wondered before about it but it seemed so extreme from so little. Certainly at home we have mechanisms for coping and calming her down such as white noise etc but that isn’t so easy out and about in public. It’s definitely reassuring to hear that it improved for you at 6 months or so though happychange!

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m33r · 30/12/2017 20:39

Have you tried white noise in the pram? There is a free app called ‘sound sleeper’ which has womb sounds (among other things). My LB used to be like this and I found sticking this on initially VERY loud to outdo the screaming then gradually turned down helped. If you put the hood up passers by won’t hear much! If you can see the signs of it coming on, you can miss out the excessive loud stage. This also serves me well now for cues for naps. Obvs, watch your phone getting hot near there little bodies. Good luck - it’s really tough. Seeing them in distress and fronting it out is exhausting xx

m33r · 30/12/2017 20:40

Oops, cross post anna. I see you have used white noise. My LB is now 4.5 months and the stage has passed so hopefully not too long at all for you too x

Myusername2015 · 30/12/2017 21:21

This could be my baby! 3-5 months he was a nightmare out; literally would scream for hours and hours if I left him anywhere: would be really upset suddenly if we were out really randomly..it was an absolute nightmare...then just about 5.5 months onwards he suddenly changed..7 months now and he’s such a happy sociable little thing out and about; really odd I didn’t change anything! I know what’s it’s like Flowers

AnnaS86 · 30/12/2017 21:28

Thanks so much, that is hugely comforting to know and funnily enough, like you, three months is also when it began to get really bad - it’s helpful just to hear that other mums and babies have been through the same and are now fine and happy as when you are surrounded by very calm babies you begin to wonder if it’s something you’re doing wrong with your parenting!

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