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What do we think about no TV for under 3's?

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Lilliput · 23/04/2007 18:09

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aviatrix · 23/04/2007 20:25

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peanutbutterkid · 23/04/2007 20:28

Not just under 3s... did you hear the part of the advice that "children" age 16-17 should only get 2 hours of screen time a day? That had me ROFL. I suppose mobile phone must count as a screen, right? hahahhaa...

drosophila · 23/04/2007 20:29

Alternative view:

Most studies that find negative effects from television compare groups of children who watch television to those who do not, even though the economic situations of the two groups are in all likelihood very different, Mr. Gentzkow said. The new study, however, was based on what the authors call a "natural experiment" that resulted from the way television was introduced in the United States in the late 1940's and early 1950's, when some cities got TV service five years ahead of others.

Data from cities where preschoolers were exposed to the new technology, and data from cities where they were not, was correlated with test scores from about 300,000 students nationwide in 1965, as collected in the Coleman Report, a survey done under the Civil Rights Act. The study also looked at test scores from pre- and post-TV age groups within cities.

The result showed "very little difference and if anything, a slight positive advantage" in test scores for children who grew up watching TV early on, compared to those who did not, said Mr. Shapiro. In nonwhite households and those where English was a second language or the mother had less than a high school education, TV's positive effect was more marked.

There is very little that television has not been blamed for when it comes to children, whether it be shortened attention spans, a predilection to violence, earlier sexual activity or a general decline in values. The American Academy of Pediatrics became so concerned about its effects that it suggested in 2001 that children under 2 watch no TV, and that preschoolers older than 2 be limited to one to two hours a day of "quality" programming.

But many parents routinely ignore that warning. Average TV viewing among 2- to 5-year-olds ? the youngest viewers tracked by Nielsen Media Research ? crept up to 3 hours and 40 minutes a day in the 2004-5 TV season. A host of cable channels have are dedicated to the tiniest viewers.

Elizabeth A. Vandewater, associate professor of human development at the University of Texas and director of the Center for Research on Interactive Technology, Television and Children, praised the new study for adding "more evidence that television is not uniformly evil or bad," but said that it ignored "a host of evidence that shows that content matters a lot."

She said that "there is a huge body of evidence that educational television" can be good for children, as well as strong evidence that "violent content is related to antisocial aggressive behavior."

Mr. Gentzkow said the work had nothing to say about how television affects a child's focus, aggression or other behaviors, and that it merely looked at academic outcomes.

The authors also said the study was not meant to evaluate television content in the 1950's versus that of today. But Mr. Shapiro noted: "If you look at the top five children's programs in the 1950's and the equivalent list from 2003, the content is not as different as you might have thought."

The study was released this month by the National Bureau of Economic Research, a nonprofit, nonpartisan group of academic researchers based in Cambridge, Mass. The group is better known for putting out statistical analyses on the state of the economy. But it also serves as a forum for disseminating working papers of new economic research that has yet to be peer-reviewed, including the television study. Mr. Gentzkow said the study had been submitted for peer review to The American Economic Review.

Spidermama · 23/04/2007 20:30

The laughter sounds hollow.

aviatrix · 23/04/2007 20:38

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drosophila · 23/04/2007 20:41

Avtrix exactly and I gues that is what most people do - go with their instincts.

wulfricsmummy · 23/04/2007 21:05

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Spidermama · 23/04/2007 21:45

This is great by the way.

juuule · 23/04/2007 21:50

Must depend on the child aswell. I've not noticed any problems with my 9 children which I could connect with tv exposure. My eldest is now 20 and my youngest is 3. I don't really restrict tv. No noticeable adverse reactions so far from any of them. Maybe I've been lucky or perhaps I'm too dim to know what I should be looking for. Always a possibility I suppose.

Dottydot · 23/04/2007 21:51

Now ds2 has turned 3, I wouldn't mind at all. But if you'd have asked me a couple of weeks ago...

Pruni · 23/04/2007 22:23

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juuule · 23/04/2007 22:38

It could be said we didn't evolve to use the internet or any other electronic device (or have we?) but my 3yo is pretty good with a mouse. I think human beings are incredibly adaptable for the most part.

agnesnitt · 23/04/2007 22:52

I banned TV for the most part in our house over a month ago. It goes on three times a week right now. For Ugly Betty and Kingdom (for me) and for Doctor Who for my daughter. There are odd times when we will watch a dvd, but that's it.

It's ruddy lovely and I intend to keep it up

emankcin · 23/04/2007 22:55

TV is obviously abhorrent and for common people only. Anyone with breeding listens to Radio Four

NotanOtter · 23/04/2007 22:59

no tv for my young ones under 3 years but my bigs did
i learned my lesson

Cazee · 23/04/2007 23:33

There is a great Calvin and Hobbes cartoon. Calvin says "Karl Marx said that religion is the opiate of the people", and the TV has a thought bubble saying "Marx hadn't seen anything yet" (probably funnier to read!)[btw if you haven't read Calvin and hobbes yet you are missing out, buy a book first thing, eg this one . TV is seriously abused, with children watching it for hours and hours. There is an extra problem with under 3s watching it, as their understanding of the possible is not yet complete, so I have read that it is not good for them to see "impossible" things, such as happens in cartoons etc.

emankcin · 23/04/2007 23:46

I was in borstal because i thought it was actually ok to blow up coyotes

juuule · 23/04/2007 23:48

emankcin - was it an Acme borstal?

emankcin · 23/04/2007 23:50

how did you ever guess?

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hotchocscot · 24/04/2007 00:18

purely anecdotal, but the mums like me who have kept the telly off when dc is around, have kids who have slept through the night from around 3/4 months with no real problems. Other mums in toddler group whose children watch tv especially later in the day (cooking dinner time for mum) seem to have more broken nights and problems with sleeping patterns/settling. Mind you, early days still...