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Minimum age for potty training for DD?

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tinkerbellhadpiles · 06/04/2007 21:09

My DD is a regular as clockwork baby. Each morning at 8am she has a poo, then another at 3pm. She wees twenty minutes after each feed and if she hears a loud noise.

She also can't abide being wet/dirty and cries immediately for a nappy change.

How old would she have to be before we started trying to potty train her (I know they don't get proper spinchter control till a year but I figure if it's going to take upwards of six months, I'd rather start sooner than later)?

Any ideas?

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claireh11 · 06/04/2007 22:55

well they are all different tbh. I managed to train my ds when he was just 2 (tried many times before and he wasnt ready) as they need to be able to tell you what they need.

He did it in 2 days flat, no accidents at all and very comfortable on toilet seat or potty.

have other friends who have tried and their children (boys ans girls) who have taken months.

The main things thy need is to be able to tell you or indicate to you that they need to go and also the control/feeling/sensation to know what they need to go.

HTH

TooTicky · 06/04/2007 22:56

My dd2 (21m) has recently decided to potty train herself and has had very few accidents.

cazzybabs · 06/04/2007 23:02

I think they are jut ready for it. both of my dds took a week (if that) but we really waited for them to be ready for it. They were about 2ish. (nappies at nighttime different issue). Why not sit your daughter on the potty for her poos?

How old is she?

BTW th loud noise you haven't rainned her Pavolu's dogs style?

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Clary · 06/04/2007 23:05

DS2 was a week before he was 2, his idea, not mine, and he got it at once.

He was my earliest. They have got to be willing IMHO.

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RedLorryYellowLorry · 07/04/2007 22:04

If she can sit up on a potty then no harm introducing one. However potty training is really when the child can decide they need to go and get there on their own or at least tell you they need to go and not have an accident on the way. IME 6 mo can't do this. Perhaps someone knows differently

tinkerbellhadpiles · 07/04/2007 22:07

I wasn't thinking about tomorrow -more sort of at 8 months. Well just really adding sitting on the loo to her normal getting up routine (we already have a wake up, feed, nappy and then handwashing, then teeth cleaning, routine and it'd be fairly simple to add 'sit on loo' to the agenda). She's also really really keen on watching me have a pee (yeah I know, scary what kids get keen on).

I also need to get one of those handled loo seats, well two actually if we are to have one on both loos, so if anyone knows where they come from (we live in the sticks so online would be good), I'd appreciate it.

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Hulababy · 07/04/2007 22:07

I think you need to look at the elimination communication (or similar) if you want to try it at this age, rather than potty training as such. Think it is all to do with looking for signs your child gives you. I believe it does take several months, with various stages to go through though, rather than some quick PT thing.

zippitippitoes · 07/04/2007 22:18

yes it is a type of relationship between you and baby trying to get rid of nappies at this age and also she may not feel like it once she gets mobile either

tinkerbellhadpiles · 07/04/2007 22:30

Hmm well that's food for thought (and keywords for googling - thanks).

I'm a tad worried about when she gets mobile, she can undo her nappies and likes to do so because she likes the velcro noise - we have cream carpets.

I'm doomed!

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bensmum4 · 08/04/2007 20:00

Dd1 was certainly potty trained by 18 months, but like you our house was very quiet then, and I could tell all the signals and help her, she used a potty then went straight on the big toilet,she never liked the seats that go on them. ds1 and 2 were about 2and a half. Now our house is much more lively dd2 will probably be 4 by the time she potty trains. I think all children are different though and if your dd is ready great,go for it, but its not a competition and no amount of pushing will help if a child isnt ready.

BabiesEverywhere · 09/04/2007 15:39

Sounds like Elimination Communication would work wonderfully for you and your daughter.

ECing can start straight away .i.e. New Born baby, we started to EC with our daughter at 10 weeks old. She is clean at 7 months old and often dry and in trainer pants during the day.

We started for the same reasons as you, DD hated dirty nappies and screamed when she poo'd/wee'd even though I would change her cloth nappies straight away, now she is EC'ed she never makes a fuss about eliminations any more.

Basically buy a Baby Bjorn Little Potty perfect for little bottom and place baby on potty just before she needs a wee's / poo's. Sounds like you already know when that will be. Try for the after nap wee's first they are the easiest to catch.

When she does wee/poo you can do a cue sound to her...We use Psss for wee and a raspberry sound for poo. After a few days/weeks she will connect the cue sound with the elimination and is you think she is ready to wee/poo. Place her on the potty and make the cue sound and if she needs to go, she'll go straight away.

BTW ECing is not potty training , it is a traditional alternative to using nappies full time and is a practical way to give your child the option of being clean and dry before they are capable of verbally telling you they need the loo and physical capable of doing the potty thing on their own.

All the best.

Mumfun · 10/04/2007 14:00

Hi

Would second EC. My DD has gone on potty from 9 months. She almost never poos in nappy now except when upset by teething.

It is so much quicker as you just pop them on and off pretty quickly. It saves a lot of time in changing nappies and wiping bottoms. My DD loves it. My changing mat is almost redundant.

HTH

BabiesEverywhere · 10/04/2007 15:09

Mumfun, I have misplaced my downstairs changing mat, as it has been that long since I have used it

insywinsyspider · 10/04/2007 21:47

i can second trying ec - we started putting ds on potty at 9mo and at 10.5mo he does all poos in potty, not brave enough to switch to training pants and he still has wet nappies - am also going back to work in couple of weeks and childminder will have to take over so think clean nappies are the first step and we'll see about the rest!

(babieseverywhere - used to be ready&waiting but changed name - thanks for all your advice with ds!)

BabiesEverywhere · 10/04/2007 21:55

insywinsyspider, No problem

Glad to hear things are going well with your son

imaginaryfriend · 10/04/2007 22:01

Why would you want to potty train her so young though? She won't be able to physically control her bowels / bladder for quite some time yet so you'll just be setting yourself up for a load of bother. She might seem 'regular' but that's not going to account for the tiny little amounts of wee that come out here and there which you're probably not aware of.

If you do it at the right age there's no way it takes 6 months. Dd was trained just after her 2nd birthday and was totally reliable by 7 days later. She was also dry all night within a further 6 months.

friendly · 10/04/2007 22:26

My mum put my first ds on the potty as soon as he could sit up properly. Apparently she did it with all of us. I thought she was mad but he pooed on it. If you know when your baby poos pop her on a potty. It really is amazing. I've done it with all 5 of mine. Ds4 started about 6 weeks ago and I think I've had a couple of dirty nappies since. I just put him on the potty with some toys or a book, sometimes one of the others does an encouraging grunt and if he needs to he does. If he doesn't after a couple of minutes I put a nappy back on. No pressure.

All mine have been so easy to potty train having been on the potty so early. DD used to leave a dry nappy by the potty in the middle of the night wee and go back to bed before she was 2! They've all been nappy free day and night just after second birthday. I hope I don't sound smug, it's about the only area of parenting I've had no problems with!

imaginaryfriend · 10/04/2007 22:28

friendly, that's fine, but I didn't do any of that stuff and my dd was also dry day and night not long after age 2, so what's the point of sitting them on the potty so early? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't get it ...

Hulababy · 10/04/2007 22:31

But does EC actually lead to early PTing later on? At what age are typical EC children dry and clean consistently, without being taken, etc?

We did normal PT with DD. She was 24 months and she led the way almost enitrely. She wasorted by day 3, with little involvement from me. Just seems easier.

imaginaryfriend · 10/04/2007 22:34

Same here, Hula, the time was right and it was a doddle.

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BabiesEverywhere · 10/04/2007 23:07

My daughter does hold her wee/poo for a short time if needed. Don't understand how she does it but she does. She doesn't do dribbles of wee all the time, she waits for a potty and does a waterfall

ECed children tend to potty train on average 6 months earlier than none ECed children. But they are clean/dry much earlier. My 7 month old DD is already clean and often dry.

As to why do it...

  1. So my DD does not have to sit in a soiled nappy...on and off for the next 2/3 years until she is old enough for proper potty training.
  1. She will not be scared of potty/toilets. She knows where wee/poo belongs, if she wants a wee and I haven't noticed, she will make a high pitch shout to 'ask' for a potty.
  1. Once you start to EC your baby and you pick up their cues and you know they need to go, you can't ignore it.
  1. As a bonus it is easier to potty a baby and rinse out the potty than it is changing a nappy.
imaginaryfriend · 10/04/2007 23:31

BE, so do you never use nappies now? Your dd is in knickers? How do you cope for nap times or when you're out?

Do you see any negative reasons for 'training' so early or are you totally for it?

I'm curious because for me dd was never left in a soiled nappy so was never bothered by that, nor was she afraid of toilets / potties. And the process of training her was such a doddle aged 2.

BabiesEverywhere · 11/04/2007 09:13

imaginaryfriend Your questions are in {}

{BE, so do you never use nappies now?}
I use cloth nappies as a backup for naptimes or long journeys out of the house.

{Your dd is in knickers?}
My DD is currently in Bright Bot Trainer pants. Which look and pull up like real pants but have a little padding and water resistance at the crotch, i.e. They get wet if we miss but not enough to make puddles or for her clothes to get really wet.

{How do you cope for nap times or when you're out?}
Nap times she wears a nappy and I potty her when she wakes up. Babies don't wee/poo in their sleep, they wake up dry and then let go when they wake up properly. In fact if anyone is thinking of starting ECing, catching the post nap wee is very easy.
Being out of the house locally she wears training pants plus other clothes. When she needs a wee/poo I take her to the nearest toilet and I pull down her pants, hold her over the toilet, cue her to wee, wipe bottom and pull up pants?.very quick and easy. I also have a folding travel potty which I use if I think she wants a poo (my arms get tired holding her out for a 5 minute poo)

{Do you see any negative reasons for 'training' so early or are you totally for it?}
Elimination Communication is not training, it is a way a parent picks up on a babies need and meets it. Just as many babies are breast/bottle fed on demand, I potty on demand.

Many mothers see that a big negative to ECing is the need to respond promptly to their babies soiled nappies, but for mothers like you and me who change dirty nappies straight away anyway that is not a problem. As it is easier and cleaner to offer the potty 1 minute before the wee/poo, than to wait for it to happen and clean it up after the fact.

Another perceived negative is the need for all the child carers to EC the child. Which again is not accurate. Babies can be ECed part time, or just evening and weekends. Babies learn that things are different depending on where and with whom they are with. i.e. Nursery give me milk in a bottle and I wee in a nappy, whereas mummy breastfeeds me and I wee in a potty. Though we are lucky enough to EC fulltime.

Another frequently mentioned negative, is the idea of mess on the floor. If you back up with nappies and trainer pants, there is no reason to have mess on the floor. In fact I give my DD bare bottom time at home, after she has used the potty and I have never had wee on the floor, she crawls back to the potty if she needs a wee. Babies respond better if they are naked but it makes me too nervous to have her naked at the home all the time, if she is in pants I don?t worry

I suppose the only real negative is that once you have started to EC your child, you can?t stop. If your child is wriggling and you know the reason is a poo around the corner or she won?t settle at night and you know she needs a wee. I can not ignore that need and she won?t settle until it has been dealt with. It is easier to get the potty out/take the child to the toilet than it is to wait until they go in their nappy themselves and then do a full nappy change.

Here is how and why we started ECing
Bright Bot Trainer Pants
What ECing is and isn?t
EC Links

I know ECing isn?t for everyone, I never thought we would use it but it does work for us. BTW it isn?t perfect although some days we have no nappies/pants to clean, other days we have a couple of pairs?but only wet nappies, all poos go in the potty and have done for months. I don?t expect DD to be perfectly dry during the day until she is around 12 months old and later for night time dryness.

My DD is happy and clean and often dry and that is all that matters to her and I am happy because she no longer screams like a banshee when she wee/poos.

ECing is such a small part of our lives, I don't hover over her with a potty, in fact I don't think about it as being different until I read threads like this, for us it is just a normal small part of our lives.

Sorry this reply ended up so long.